It is a bit of a ‘grey area’ though, isn’t it? Typically an insurer will look at a surveyor’s report and make the surveyor’s recommendations a requirement of the insurance, with a timeline to complete the required work.
I’m not sure what US Coast Guard regs say, but Transport Canada says that a pleasure craft, built to a previous standard, doesn’t have to comply with the Transport Canada current standard (but is encouraged to do so, as far as practical). But then there are clauses that state you must meet the standard when a vessel is ‘rebuilt’ or ‘imported’.... or undergoes a ‘major modification’, which is defined as: “major modification” means a modification or repair or a series of modifications or repairs that substantially changes the capacity or size of a vessel or the nature of a system on board a vessel, that affects its watertight integrity or its stability, or, except in the case of the restoration of an antique wooden pleasure craft, that substantially increases its service life” So I expect if, for example, you were adding in a shorepower system where one never existed before? Or perhaps you are adding a propane-based stove/oven, BBQ, and cabin heater with propane tanks and a propane locker? Refrigeration system? Hot water system? Genset? A complete AC/DC re-wire? Same as, when do you need a building / electrical / plumbing permits for your home? Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet C&C 27 MkIII From: Robert Boyer via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 10:53 AM To: ed vanderkruk ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Wiring Diagram Draft I believe that ABYC only governs the practice of boat builders and boat repair contractors. I don't believe there is any requirement that our old boats have to be brought up to the current ABYC standards (which are always being improved). A survey done on your boat may recommend that something be changed to adhere to the current ABYC standards but that is the judgement of the marine surveyor. So, I think we need to think of ABYC standards with respect to our DIY projects as "recommended guidelines" when we are making changes--not as an absolute requirement. For example, ABYC recommends the use of tinned wire throughout a boat. Our old boats have mostly un-tinned wire throughout. Even though it's a good idea to replace the old un-tinned wire it is not a requirement for insurance purposes or safety purposes. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com "There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." --Kenneth Grahame On Apr 2, 2015, at 1:28 PM, ed vanderkruk via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: For ABYC compliance it must be failsafe or with integral / external status monitoring for a failure. All DIY solutions would also not comply to the 'general requirements' of the GI ABYC section. Now whether this is highlighted during survey and any liabilities but noncompliance ... I leave to others. Ed _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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