I'll miss seeing her around if she sells.  We're pretty used to having her
(and Dave) in the Bras d'or Lakes in the summer.

Its a tradition by now.

Ken H.

On 29 July 2015 at 15:56, Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com> wrote:

>  Thanks Ken
>
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>
> For sale but not sold.  As a matter of fact racing on it in 2 hours ….
>
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>
> If Koobalibra sells then my racing gets a lot more expensive as we have to
> use my boat!
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Persistence
>
> 1987 Frers 33
>
> Halifax, NS
>
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>
> *From:* Ken Heaton [mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2015 3:52 PM
> *To:* cnc-list
> *Cc:* Hoyt, Mike
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please
>
>
>
> Mike neglected to mention the 115 he races on out of Halifax, NS is also
> for sale (but it is a long way from Florida).
>
>
>
> Ken H.
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>
> On 29 July 2015 at 13:22, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> I will echo what John has asked.  What are you planning to do with the
> boat?
>
> I have raced weekly on a C&C115 for the past 6 years and have sailed quite
> a bit and raced some on and against a 99 as well.  Of the four models I
> believe these are the most commonly raced
>
> The C&C 115 sails extremely well to wind but likes to have a good sized
> crew to run it.  We like to have 11 bodies on board when we race to give
> adequate weight on rail and to get all the jobs done.  Both the 115 and 99
> have oversized spinnaker and pole but the 115 requires dip pole gybes since
> it has a mast end and a guy end on the pole.  This requires a mast person
> as well as a foredeck person for gybes.  The 99 can do end for end or dip
> pole so requires one less body.  Last year in a race week 7 was an adequate
> crew size on a 99.
>
> The rig on the 115 is quite large.  The main sheet is led to a winch on
> either coaming and is more work to run than that on the 99 which is I
> believe 6 or 8 to one with ratcheting cam cleats.  The traveler on the 99
> seems to work better than that on the 115 as well.  Much else is the same
> on the two models
>
> The interiors of both the 99 and 115 are quite nice but the aft cabin in
> the 99 is a bit more cramped although my wife and I have slept quite
> comfortably in the aft cabin on a 99 more than once.
>
> If going offshore the 115 is a far bigger boat than the 99 but I cannot
> speak for the 110 or 121.
>
> For rigging the loads and simplicity of the 99 are very nice.  Many of the
> adjustments such as backstay are not hydraulic and are well geared and
> easily adjusted.  By comparison the loads on the 115 are higher making it
> difficult to adjust outhaul, halyard etc while hard on the wind.
>
>  If you want a 99 for racing the boat named "Rabbit" is for sale.  It is
> hull #1, has the original 6'6" keel, carbon rig, bow sprit, carbon wheel
> and custom Spartan interior.  This would be the fastest C&C99 in existence
> and there is a huge difference in performance between the 6.5 ft keel and
> the 5.5 version.  Note that if you are concerned about going places because
> of a deep draft then forget the 115 which I believe is 7 ft and go for the
> 5.5 ft 99.
>
> Both of the newer C&Cs that I have regularly sailed on and raced on are
> very nice designs and very nice sailing boats.  C&C IMO really dropped the
> ball when they changed to only the shallower keel on the 99 as it has
> affected the performance noticeably but is still a very well performing
> boat even with the 5.5 ft keel.  The shallower keel has the weight a bit
> aft on the 99 compared to the 6.5 ft keel making it very important to get
> weight forward for optimum trim.  A Carbon rig 6.5 ft keel version here in
> Halifax is very fast and an Olson 30 that has raced against both variants
> of the 99 commented how much faster the deeper keel one was.
>
> You are not going to do wrong with either the 99 or the 115 but if short
> handed sailing a lot the smaller 99 is easier to handle.  IMO C&C made 4
> very lovely models in these boats.  Good luck with your search
>
> Oh - and the cut out transoms on all models are something I am very
> envious about.  Swimming off the 99 is very convenient compared to climbing
> up the transom and over the pushpit on our Frers 33
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
> Bradford Baker via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 12:39 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Bradford Baker
> Subject: Stus-List Looking for feedback please
>
> My wife and I are considering a C & C 99, 110, 115 and 121.
> Does anyone have any experiences, thoughts or opinions you’d care to share
> with us?
>
> In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that “Mother Nature always bats last.”
>
> Bradford W. Baker
> bradba...@mac.com
> 8308 Old Town Drive
> Tampa, FL 33647
> 813-528-3291
>
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