Mike, I have a pretty little 1986 33 II for sale that would make an excellent racing platform...hint, hint, hint....we can talk about delivering....
Richard 1985 C&C 36 CB, Ohio River, Mile 596; Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -----Original Message----- From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: kenheaton <kenhea...@gmail.com>; cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com> Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2015 2:57 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please Thanks Ken For sale but not sold. As a matter of fact racing on it in 2 hours …. If Koobalibra sells then my racing gets a lot more expensive as we have to use my boat! Mike Persistence 1987 Frers 33 Halifax, NS From: Ken Heaton [mailto:kenhea...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 3:52 PM To: cnc-list Cc: Hoyt, Mike Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for feedback please Mike neglected to mention the 115 he races on out of Halifax, NS is also for sale (but it is a long way from Florida). Ken H. On 29 July 2015 at 13:22, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: I will echo what John has asked. What are you planning to do with the boat? I have raced weekly on a C&C115 for the past 6 years and have sailed quite a bit and raced some on and against a 99 as well. Of the four models I believe these are the most commonly raced The C&C 115 sails extremely well to wind but likes to have a good sized crew to run it. We like to have 11 bodies on board when we race to give adequate weight on rail and to get all the jobs done. Both the 115 and 99 have oversized spinnaker and pole but the 115 requires dip pole gybes since it has a mast end and a guy end on the pole. This requires a mast person as well as a foredeck person for gybes. The 99 can do end for end or dip pole so requires one less body. Last year in a race week 7 was an adequate crew size on a 99. The rig on the 115 is quite large. The main sheet is led to a winch on either coaming and is more work to run than that on the 99 which is I believe 6 or 8 to one with ratcheting cam cleats. The traveler on the 99 seems to work better than that on the 115 as well. Much else is the same on the two models The interiors of both the 99 and 115 are quite nice but the aft cabin in the 99 is a bit more cramped although my wife and I have slept quite comfortably in the aft cabin on a 99 more than once. If going offshore the 115 is a far bigger boat than the 99 but I cannot speak for the 110 or 121. For rigging the loads and simplicity of the 99 are very nice. Many of the adjustments such as backstay are not hydraulic and are well geared and easily adjusted. By comparison the loads on the 115 are higher making it difficult to adjust outhaul, halyard etc while hard on the wind. If you want a 99 for racing the boat named "Rabbit" is for sale. It is hull #1, has the original 6'6" keel, carbon rig, bow sprit, carbon wheel and custom Spartan interior. This would be the fastest C&C99 in existence and there is a huge difference in performance between the 6.5 ft keel and the 5.5 version. Note that if you are concerned about going places because of a deep draft then forget the 115 which I believe is 7 ft and go for the 5.5 ft 99. Both of the newer C&Cs that I have regularly sailed on and raced on are very nice designs and very nice sailing boats. C&C IMO really dropped the ball when they changed to only the shallower keel on the 99 as it has affected the performance noticeably but is still a very well performing boat even with the 5.5 ft keel. The shallower keel has the weight a bit aft on the 99 compared to the 6.5 ft keel making it very important to get weight forward for optimum trim. A Carbon rig 6.5 ft keel version here in Halifax is very fast and an Olson 30 that has raced against both variants of the 99 commented how much faster the deeper keel one was. You are not going to do wrong with either the 99 or the 115 but if short handed sailing a lot the smaller 99 is easier to handle. IMO C&C made 4 very lovely models in these boats. Good luck with your search Oh - and the cut out transoms on all models are something I am very envious about. Swimming off the 99 is very convenient compared to climbing up the transom and over the pushpit on our Frers 33 Mike -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bradford Baker via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 12:39 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bradford Baker Subject: Stus-List Looking for feedback please My wife and I are considering a C & C 99, 110, 115 and 121. Does anyone have any experiences, thoughts or opinions you’d care to share with us? In Tampa Bay, where I'm thinking that “Mother Nature always bats last.” Bradford W. Baker bradba...@mac.com 8308 Old Town Drive Tampa, FL 33647 813-528-3291 _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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