Doug:

You really don't need two batteries for starting--one Group 24 should do it.  
The old YANMAR starters are dinosaurs in terms of their energy usage but you 
should still be OK with one battery.  Last summer I changed my starter to a 
newer type of starter (not YANMAR brand) and greatly reduced the energy 
consumption during starting.  By the way, I think the newer YANMAR replacement 
starters are the same as my new starter in terms of energy consumption.

4D's are a bear to lift!  When you look at how much space is used per unit of 
energy storage, there is little to be saved by using a 4D as opposed to a 
number of smaller batteries.  However, you can significantly increase energy 
storage by changing your Group 24's or 27's to Group 31's with more amp-hours 
in essentially the same footprint as the smaller batteries.

I have the port quarter berth/starboard nav station layout and the biggest 
advantage I see is the increased size of the starboard cockpit locker.  If you 
are changing things around, I would look into better access to this space 
(which I assume is like my port locker now--very shallow and not very usable).

I looked into 6-volt golf cart batteries pretty extensively and the only real 
advantage you get is possible a longer service life on the batteries.  They 
take up the same space per unit of energy stored as 12-volt batteries.  I have 
a boat neighbor who is replacing his 6-volt (wet cell) batteries after 12 years 
of service on a boat that was not used very much, which is outstanding, but I 
don't think you can expect this kind of service life on a boat that is used a 
lot.

Even though I like my nav station, electronics have evolved into helm-mounted 
units and a nav station (for navigation) is really no longer needed.  The 
waterproof VHF units can be mounted at the helm too.

Bob


On Aug 19, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Douglas Mountjoy via CnC-List wrote:

> On Pegasus I have the hot water heater under the port q-berth but soon to be 
> mover further aft, I will add a bulkhead to keep the heat away from the 
> battery and I will put a house battery there. either a pair of 6 volts or a 
> 4d. had one next to the heater and cooked it. I also have a pair of 6vots on 
> the shelf just aft of the companion way steps. The starting batteries are on 
> the port shelf by the engine ( a pair of group 24's). I built a temporary 
> shelf under the stbd q-berth for a second house battery (4d). Plans are in 
> the works to convert the stbd q-berth into a nav station. battery and holding 
> tank will get moved again. One other thing I am doing is having a friend 
> build drawers that go full length in the cabinets, like the ones in the 
> galley do. Should almost double my drawer storage. I have my windlass powered 
> off of the engine batteries. 
> 
> Doug Mountjoy
> sv Pegasus
> LF38 hull #4
> somewhere west of Ballard, WA
> 
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I'm helping a friend move his LF38 to NC, and along the way we are making up 
> a project list. The boat will be used for live aboard cruising.
> 
> The current setup has one new start battery as bank 1, and two old batteries 
> in parallel as the house bank 2. The old house batteries need to be replaced 
> in the next couple of weeks, and we would like to maximize the AHR capacity 
> and try to increase the number of batteries in the house bank.
> 
> The start battery is in the locker under the front half of the quarter berth. 
> The house batteries are on a shelf on the port side of the engine compartment 
> (and are a bitch to get to). There is no room for more batteries on the shelf.
> 
> So where have you guys installed additional batteries to increase the size of 
> you house bank?
> 
> Rick Brass
> Jim Schwartz
> s/v Sea Ya
> 1983 LF38 Hull # 105
> 
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