Edd, that's the policy of YRALIS. Most other places seem to have spinn and 
non-spinn ratings.
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

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> On Aug 26, 2015, at 14:21, Edd Schillay via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> The problem with the STAR is that it has a PHRF rating based on it’s 
> full-sailing capability which works against other boats racing with spinnaker 
> (their full-sailing capability), even though it does not have a spinnaker. 
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> There is no good way to rate a STAR when competing against non-spinnaker 
> boats. 
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> For example, the Enterprise rates 96 in a spinnaker division and rates 96 in 
> a non-spinnaker division. That does not mean I can be competitive not raising 
> my chute in a spinnaker division. The rating assumes everyone is on equal 
> ground. 
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> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
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> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
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>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Here in Erie it is 153 for our JAM fleet.
>> I am half owner of #6868 with my Trawler buddy, who races it.  It is the 
>> second Star for both of us.
>> Last year when he first started in the C fleet, he was killing them, and I 
>> heard comments from the race committee (who didn’t know what a Star was) 
>> like, “what is that surfboard with the huge sail?! Of course, the guy is a 
>> great sailor, and has about 10 years sailmaking experience in his early 
>> years, so he is no shrinking violet.
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>> But you are right, it does get punished when the wind pipes up! So, 
>> theoretically it might be a correct rating, but when you are mostly dealing 
>> with light summer evening winds . . . 
>>  
>> Bill Coleman
>> C&C 39 (&1/2 Star)  Erie PA 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary 
>> Nylander via CnC-List
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 12:35 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Gary Nylander
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26 Sail Plan Thoughts!
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>> What do your folks rate a Star? We only have one Wednesday night race where 
>> the fleets are combined, so usually they race one design - windward/leeward 
>> - which is what they like. But on that single race, our guys rate them at 
>> 162, which seems to be somewhat correct. And, we race in light wind and flat 
>> water, which favors them. The rest of the combined fleet ranges from a J-105 
>> at 87 to a Cal 2-27 at 213.
>>  
>> Gary
>> St. Michaels MD
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