Thanks for the information Chuck, your points are well taken. 
I will give the factory a call and see what options they are willing to make 
available. 

Regards,
Steve Thomas
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Chuck Gilchrest 
  Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:35
  Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C Nameplate - Now printing dwg file problem


  Steve,

  Just 2 cents from a former Edsonite (10+ years).  When replacing the Idler 
plate and uprights on a “vintage” crossed wire idler, the original plates were 
made of painted mild steel with bronze sheave uprights, using a pressed- in 
oversize pop rivets holding the uprights to the plate, thus allowing sheave 
assemblies to pivot and lock in place using a locking bolt/ nut and a groove 
cut in the plate to let the upright swing through an arc for proper alignment.  
 The placement of the pivot holes (which also are the holes the cable pass 
through) is critical relative to the sprocket inside the pedestal to allow the 
chain to cross inside the pedestal without rubbing on itself. 

   

  The new cross wire idler assemblies are now made of cast aluminum with 
stainless uprights but have the same physical dimensions with one exception- 
thickness of the plate, which can affect the cable alignment especially if your 
radial wheel is close by to the idler.  Edson does sell this Idler plate 
without sheaves, but the uprights are pre-installed at the factory.  I’d call 
the factory 508-995-9711 and ask for pricing for a 774AL-4AL less sheaves.   
They may even have a few mild steel plates banging around the building as well. 
 Unless you’re buying a new idler assembly, you’ll need to have a means of 
pressing the idler uprights onto a new plate in such a fashion that the upright 
will pivot to assure proper alignment with the radial wheel on the rudder shaft.

   

  In the event you make your own plate, make sure to change out the bronze 
sheave pins with stainless pins and check the sheave bushing/pin runout to make 
sure the sheaves are reusable.  I would advise not making an aluminum plate if 
you plan to re-use the bronze (pot metal) uprights for obvious reasons.

  This is also a really good time to replace your chain and wire cables since 
everything will be apart.  

   

  While this doesn’t necessarily help with the CAD issue, it may shed some 
light on the reason for the cost of the part, considering the engineering to 
make it work right out of the box.

  Best,

  Chuck Gilchrest

  Half Magic

  1975 25 Mk 1

  Orion

  1983 35 Landfall

  Padanaram MA

   

   

   

  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh 
Muckley via CnC-List
  Sent: Monday, January 4, 2016 10:01 AM
  To: C&C List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
  Cc: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C Nameplate - Now printing dwg file problem

   

  Building off of Bill's comments, most "good" machine shops will take your 
file without any hesitation.  If you  find one that will then try my guy at:

  Harry "HL" Langley
  marsurl...@comcast.net
  (410) 326-2001

  Josh Muckley
  S/V Sea Hawk
  1989 C&C 37+
  Solomons, MD 

  On Jan 4, 2016 4:41 AM, "S Thomas via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

    To any lister with AutoCAD experience:

    The plate holding the cable idler sheaves that bolts to the bottom of the 
Edson steering pedestal on my recent C&C36 purchase has almost completely 
disintegrated. I downloaded a .dwg drawing of the assembly from the Edson web 
page and installed a version of Autodesk Trueview (2014) that is compatible 
with XP, but I cannot get it to print (plot) anything other than an empty 
rectangle. I have been poking at it quite a bit and got exactly nowhere. I have 
no experience with AutoCAD, and find the user interface tools less than 
intuitive. About like my first experience with vi in Unix, only less 
productive. Any fiddling with layer colours, and the layout tab disappears 
completely. Is there a simple way to print from either the model or the layout 
tabs in the file as downloaded? All I have been able to get in the print 
preview is a line rectangle the outlines the page, and sure enough, that is all 
that prints. The help files have not been helpful in  printing, but at least I 
can pan, zoom, and take measurements between points. 

     

     Edson lists a price for the entire assembly, but the sheaves appear to be 
ok, and the Edson price (US$ 360) is pretty high for what I think that I 
actually need. I would rather just make a mounting plate if I can't purchase 
one for a reasonable price. 

     

    Steve Thomas

    C&C36 MKI

    Merritt Island, FL

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Gary Russell via CnC-List 

      To: C&C List 

      Cc: Gary Russell 

      Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 22:56

      Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C Nameplate

       

      Dennis, 

           Interesting idea.  The file is the problem, however.

      Gary




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