Hald held radios in the cockpit are not Gybe-proof or Broach-proof.

In the first case had a Cobra submersible handheld sitting in a cupholder on 
the binnacle.  A gybe on a windy day had the main sheet tear it apart!  Antenna 
and all control buttons completely torn off and the battery gone. Despite the 
open transom on the C&C 115 the radio itself stayed aboard.  The second 
instance was a waterproof handheld situated in a cupholder in the cockpit of 
our J27.  A spectacular broach put some water in the cockpit and the boat 
horizontal briefly at which time the radio fell out of the cupholder.  Luckily 
it stayed aboard.

Our ram mic on persistence is located beneath the helm seat and is out of the 
way of the main sheet and feet and all other lines.  It is attached to the boat 
so does tend to stay aboard …

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 1:53 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic
Subject: Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

Hard to argue the first point. Things that are not attached have a propensity 
to dive off the boat the very moment you turn your head and often don’t even 
wait for that.

But re the second point, I have a handheld VHF radio (an older Icom) and its 
Lithium battery seems to last forever (usually most of the season, but I bring 
it home to recharge once every couple of months). And it has a 12 V cradle, as 
well, so you could charge it every time your on-board systems are on.

Marek

From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 12:38
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Frederick G Street<mailto:f...@postaudio.net>
Subject: Re: Stus-List VHF / AIS

That’s supposed to be a pretty nice radio; but I have an issue with the whole 
wireless remote mic thing.

First, has anyone ever lost overboard something that wasn’t firmly attached to 
the boat?  And secondly, has anyone gone to use a piece of rechargeable 
battery-powered electronics, only to find that the battery was dead?  Neither 
of these scenarios apply to a hard-wired remote mic like the S-H or the Icom.

Otherwise, I’d agree that the Simard was a great option.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:25 AM, Gary Russell via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Has anyone looked at or used the Simrad RS35 VHF radio?  It looks amazing for 
the price!  It has NMEA2000, AIS, DSC and supports up to two wireless remote 
mikes.  Defender has it for $329.99.  The wireless remote mike is $139.99.  The 
comparable Icom radio is $399.99 and the remote mike and cable is $274.98.  So, 
$469.98 vs. $674.97.

Gary
S/V High Maintenance
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI, USA

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On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Barry Lenoble via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hey,

I do like Standard Horizon gear and I have had a few of their VHD radios. Nice 
gear, good audio quality, innovative, etc.

My comment is this: The SH radios are NMEA 0183 only. This is too bad because 
NMEA 2000 is much easier to integrate. If you don’t have any other electronics, 
and don’t plan on integrating the radio to a plotter, then don’t worry about it 
and the SH radio is a good choice. However, if you think you might want to 
install a chartplotter, and display the AIS information on the plotter screen, 
and / or you plan on interfacing a plotter to an autopilot, wind instrument, or 
ANYTHING else, I strongly recommend you buy a VHF that has NMEA 2000 interface.

With NMEA 2000 you don’t have to worry about connecting the little tiny wires 
together, or about baud rates, or who is the talker and who is the listener. 
You just plug the cable in and it works.

Simrad makes a VHD/AIS receiver with NMEA 2000, so does Lowrance and I think 
icom does too

The Simrad unit is nice because the second station handset is wireless and you 
can carry it with you. The Lowrance unit doesn’t support the second handset.

Good luck,
Barry



Barry Lenoble
leno...@optonline.net<mailto:leno...@optonline.net>
Deep Blue C, C&C 110
Mt. Sinai, NY
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