One of the times I changed trannies, I had to modify the lever on the tranny. I had to drill a hole closer to the axis, as It didn’t have enough throw to completely engage reverse. This shortened the length you had to move the lever. I have to agree, no one would design a shift wherein you had to hold the lever with your knee while backing into a slip!
Bill Coleman C&C 39 Erie, PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 3:05 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chuck Gilchrest Subject: Re: Stus-List paragon v-drive transmission Paragon gear boxes that use the heavier duty Series 64 cables often are prone to shift issues as it is a mechanical gear box and the throw on the lever is quite long and requires full engagement. Many times you’ll find it hard to engage the transmission in gear because of excess friction within the cable, which for what it’s worth, is likely 40 years old… In my tenure with Edson, solving gearbox shifter issues could be handled by two things: A new cable (which solved 90% of them) Adjusting the angle at which the cable attaches to the shifter arm at the gearbox. If the engagement lever was more than 8 degrees +/- from a 90 degree angle to the cable in neutral, the cable would need to push the lever over center and would rarely allow complete engagement either forward or reverse. Trust me when I tell you that the longer shift lever at the pedestal was not designed to be held by your knee when trying to back your boat into a slip… Chuck Gilchrest Half Magic 25-1 Orion 35 Landfall Padanaram, MA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Boyer via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 2:02 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Robert Boyer <dainyr...@icloud.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List paragon v-drive transmission My transmission is a Hurth. Sounds like having to hold the reverse lever back, steer, and control the throttle is not very safe. Bob Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer On Feb 18, 2016, at 12:48 PM, Douglas Mountjoy via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Jason, I have the same transmission/ V-drive on Pegasus. The Paragon is very simply designed to be held in reverse. The V-drive is made by Walter. If you notice that on the side of the transmission is a large lever, I was told by a local expert that it was designed to be held in reverse by pushing the lever aft with your foot while docking, on our boats you would pull the lever towards you (because of the V-drive). I assume that you have a fairly large shifter handle on the binnacle, When down to my slip I will hold it in reverse with my knee. The way it works is in forward you are engaging a clutch while in reverse you are applying pressure to a band that is around a drum. the harder you push the lever in reverse that stronger the engagement. There is also a universal joint the the tube between the tranny and V-drive unit, that should be removed and lubed every so often. I have done mine once in 9 years of boat ownership. Doug Mountjoy sv Pegasus LF38 #4 just west of Ballard, WA On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Jason Ward via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Hi My landfall has the paragon v-drive transmission system. When I go forward it feels like the leaver “clicks” into place, however, when going in reverse it feels like it is just friction that is holding it in gear. The problem I am experiencing is that when in reverse and the rpm’s are up the leaver slips out of gear. The only way it stays in reverse is to hold the leaver down. I have tried adjusting the cable tension bolt under the deck to no avail, cable becomes to hard to move. I am wondering if this is just an issue with my boat or have others experienced similar problems. If you have had this happen what is the fix. From what I can find no one really deals with these old transmission any more. Any help that can be offered is appreciated. Regards, Jason Ward Landfall 38 Winnipeg, MB This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email> www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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