I have a SS bit on my Dremel.  I've used it to grind out screw heads on
screws that won't budge.  Often the vibration and heat loosen the screws
and I can still unscrew them before I completely destroy the screw head.  A
drill would be a more controlled way to attack the set screws.

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Good suggestions, all –
>
> As mentioned, make sure all the setscrews are out, in case there were one
> on top of another. If someone ground a setscrew into the threads, you could
> be screwed, no pun intended.  Stainless on Stainless galls terribly, which
> is why everyone is always saying to use Tef jel .
>
>
>
> Done properly, those setscrews should go into little depressions so the
> threads are not mauled, but if someone else messed with it they could have
> just screwed them into the threads.  If it has started to gall, you are in
> trouble. Maybe let some cutting oil seep into the threads, cutting oil with
> chlorine, Specifically for SS . Then I would increase your lever length.
>
>
>
> If worse comes to worse, jack it up a little to make a space, then cut it
> off and re-weld it when you get the nut off or make another end.
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C&C 39 Erie, PA
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Patrick
> Davin via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 19, 2016 11:45 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Patrick Davin
> *Subject:* Stus-List Rudder collar "donut" removal
>
>
>
> I have my boat hauled out now and am trying to drop the rudder.
>
>
>
> The stainless steel donut that holds the rudder up, above the thrust
> bearing in the cockpit, is very much stuck. I removed the two set screws
> and am attempting to unscrew (counterclockwise), with the rudder propped up
> (enough that that delrin bearing under the donut is free spinning).
>
>
>
> This is the donut pictured on Wally's page:
>
> http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/Projects/steering/bearing/sole/bs02.jpg
>
> http://www.wbryant.com/StellaBoat/Projects/steering/bearing/sole/
>
>
>
> He got it off with just an oil filter wrench + exhaust hose on past
> occasions, and later with that strap wrench.  I've already applied far more
> force than a strap wrench with no luck. :(
>
>
>
> I had planned to have the yard (Seaview) help with this, but apparently
> they have plenty of fiberglass guys but not enough mechanical guys, and are
> backlogged on anything mechanical. So if I want this to go faster I can
> keep trying to do it myself. And saving money by not having them bang away
> at it for $105/hour is probably good anyway. Though honestly I would
> happily do that now if they could get it loose.
>
>
>
> I know Frank of S/V Cool Change had a bear of a time with the set screws:
> http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/2007-March/009523.html
>   (but I guess the donut wasn't a problem?)
>
>
>
> And I know another owner who used a huge pipe wrench with some padding,
> and yard assistance, but ended up damaging it and needing to get a new one.
>
>
>
> Things I've tried:
>
> - PB Blaster, every day for 4-5 days, around the top, into the set screw
> holes, and around the bottom.
>
> - Loctite Freeze + Release
>
> - oil filter wrench with rubber pieces to grip
>
> - threading a bolt into the set screw holes and hammering on that -
> quickly abandoned this because it started to bend the screws and I realized
> it would strip the set screw holes.
>
> - C clamps
>
> - Heat gun (I don't have a torch - however I don't think heat will be very
> successful because the mated parts are both stainless steel)
>
> - Large hose clamp tightened around my rubber gripper ring and hammering
> on the hose clamp screw. I really thought this was the genius idea that
> would finally work. Nothing budged, even with heavy pounding. But the hose
> clamp does the best job of pressing my rubber gripper onto the donut and
> had no slippage.
>
>
>
> Is there anything I'm missing? Has anyone else had this hard a time
> getting the donut off, or found anything else that worked?
>
>
>
> The Edson radial drive bolts are also seized, but I have some more things
> to try there still, and as last resort it can be cut off and order a new
> one ($500).
>
>
>
> If I can get the rudder out I might also consider changing the stuffing
> box, because that is also seized (looks original and probably hasn't been
> adjusted in 5 years).
>
>
>
> -Patrick
>
> 1984 C&C Landfall 38
>
> Violet Hour, Seattle, WA
>
>
>
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