Dave,
On my 33-2 (1987, Offshorespars mast). I added the mast crane from Offshore to add some clearance in front of the furler and to use one dedicated spin haylard. I even remove the port haylard since i don't use it /need it. I have full confidence in my fairly new all rope (Vectran) haylards. Knowing i will never have a full crew to race with a symetric spin, I wanted a big asym that would be easy to rig double handed or even singlehanded. I went a bit crazy and ordered a Selden retractable bowsprit (3 feet in front of the bow extended) and a Facnor furler. the asym is 82 m2 runner, almost as big as a symetric and is very easy to manage even in challenging conditions. It is amazing how deep i can keep it, up to 150-160 degrees in a good breeze. If i was to do it all over i might choose a sock insteand of the furler. the furler works ok but it is slow to furl. Not ideal when racing on short courses, but our racing is mostly coastal distance racing. And the tack (furler drum) is fixed, i sometimes try to let go the haylard a bit (10-12 inches) to get a fuller sail, but i'm sure it would be better to play with the tack line if i had one... To have more clearance at the top of the mast, the crane was a big plus, it would be too tight between the spin furler head and the jib furler otherwise. I added a spinlock XAS cluth on the mast and i love it. I also have a XTS at the mast for the main. Let me know if you would like some pictures of my setup. Bruno Lachance Bécassine, 33-2 New-Richmond,Qc. ________________________________ De : CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> de la part de Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Envoyé : 12 septembre 2016 12:34 À : cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc : Hoyt, Mike Objet : Re: Stus-List Asymmetric spinnaker short handed. 33-2? Dave The Frers 33 is remarkably similar to C&C 33-2. It also has three mast halyards forward. The outer ones are most certainly port and stbd spin halyards. One reason NOT to have one of the spin halyards at mast and other in cockpit is that a spin will always want to be hoisted on whichever halyard is on the leeward is at hoist time. Persistence has an oversized anchor roller that protruded a bit in front of bow. We have a bail on this that we put a side opening block on. We simply run the spin downhaul thru this for a tack line. Any gybes are best done forward of forestay. Since spin halyards are expected to have loads to the sides that should not be any different with asym than with symmetric spin. Note that we have had no issues with this setup using the sock or without the sock on our asym. For your mast comments why not a cleat at the mast. Something maybe like a J Boat where it has a cam cleat at mast and is also run back to coachroof. Alternatively a horn cleat at mast (likely is one there already for some other purpose) and when short handed cleat it there. The rest of the halyard could still be run back to cockpit with the excess either bundled at mast or in cockpit at your discretion. Have fun with the asym. Mike Persistence Frers 33 Halifax, NS -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Syerdave--- via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 7:40 AM To: C&c Stus List Cc: syerd...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Asymmetric spinnaker short handed. 33-2? Great information all, and thank you. In response to a few comments, Had originally thought of a Crane also at the masthead, and somehow incorporating a bail into the anchor roller, but as noted, with three halyards and a few options at the bow, it is probably not necessary. I guess the crane etc went away for windage reasons? Something at the anchor roller casting could be added later maybe. I will add a a belaying point at the mast for one of the wing halyards. No brainer, now that someone else suggested it! On chafe, wraps. I still have the original wire halyards and have noted abrasion from same at the masthead. Will replace with rope over the winter, and per the article referred, mark to ensure a full hoist. Outside/inside? Outside absolutely, and I should have stated that in my post. I can't imagine trying to tack that sail inside on a 33-2. Last, single or short handed? single, with Otto, sibling of George, doing his thing at the helm. Thanks again, all set. Dave. _______________________________________________ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated! _______________________________________________ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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