Bruno - would very much appreciate photos of the sprit and masthead, and Mike, great suggestion on the camcleat- best of both worlds. The many replies to my original post are full of great detail, I will summarize and post to my blog when I get a moment. I have a sock for my symmetrical, it works well, and have one on order with my new A sail. I think that would be the starting point, rather than a furler. Those flying sail furlers are sexy but spendy and I already have plenty of lines in the cockpit. Like you Bruno, short or singlehanded will be the rule. I haul out on Sept 26, and hope that my sail gets here in time for one use anyway....
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Bruno Lachance <bruno_lacha...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > Dave, > > > On my 33-2 (1987, Offshorespars mast). I added the mast crane from Offshore > to add some clearance in front of the furler and to use one dedicated spin > haylard. I even remove the port haylard since i don't use it /need it. I have > full confidence in my fairly new all rope (Vectran) haylards. > > > Knowing i will never have a full crew to race with a symetric spin, I wanted > a big asym that would be easy to rig double handed or even singlehanded. I > went a bit crazy and ordered a Selden retractable bowsprit (3 feet in front > of the bow extended) and a Facnor furler. the asym is 82 m2 runner, almost as > big as a symetric and is very easy to manage even in challenging conditions. > It is amazing how deep i can keep it, up to 150-160 degrees in a good breeze. > > > If i was to do it all over i might choose a sock insteand of the furler. the > furler works ok but it is slow to furl. Not ideal when racing on short > courses, but our racing is mostly coastal distance racing. And the tack > (furler drum) is fixed, i sometimes try to let go the haylard a bit (10-12 > inches) to get a fuller sail, but i'm sure it would be better to play with > the tack line if i had one... > > > To have more clearance at the top of the mast, the crane was a big plus, it > would be too tight between the spin furler head and the jib furler otherwise. > > > I added a spinlock XAS cluth on the mast and i love it. I also have a XTS at > the mast for the main. > > > Let me know if you would like some pictures of my setup. > > > Bruno Lachance > > Bécassine, 33-2 > > New-Richmond,Qc. > > > > > > > De : CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> de la part de Hoyt, Mike via > CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Envoyé : 12 septembre 2016 12:34 > À : cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc : Hoyt, Mike > Objet : Re: Stus-List Asymmetric spinnaker short handed. 33-2? > > Dave > > The Frers 33 is remarkably similar to C&C 33-2. It also has three mast > halyards forward. The outer ones are most certainly port and stbd spin > halyards. One reason NOT to have one of the spin halyards at mast and other > in cockpit is that a spin will always want to be hoisted on whichever halyard > is on the leeward is at hoist time. > > Persistence has an oversized anchor roller that protruded a bit in front of > bow. We have a bail on this that we put a side opening block on. We simply > run the spin downhaul thru this for a tack line. Any gybes are best done > forward of forestay. Since spin halyards are expected to have loads to the > sides that should not be any different with asym than with symmetric spin. > Note that we have had no issues with this setup using the sock or without the > sock on our asym. > > For your mast comments why not a cleat at the mast. Something maybe like a J > Boat where it has a cam cleat at mast and is also run back to coachroof. > Alternatively a horn cleat at mast (likely is one there already for some > other purpose) and when short handed cleat it there. The rest of the halyard > could still be run back to cockpit with the excess either bundled at mast or > in cockpit at your discretion. > > Have fun with the asym. > > Mike > Persistence > Frers 33 > Halifax, NS > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > Syerdave--- via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 7:40 AM > To: C&c Stus List > Cc: syerd...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Asymmetric spinnaker short handed. 33-2? > > Great information all, and thank you. In response to a few comments, > Had originally thought of a Crane also at the masthead, and somehow > incorporating a bail into the anchor roller, but as noted, with three > halyards and a few options at the bow, it is probably not necessary. I guess > the crane etc went away for windage reasons? Something at the anchor > roller casting could be added later maybe. > I will add a a belaying point at the mast for one of the wing halyards. No > brainer, now that someone else suggested it! > On chafe, wraps. I still have the original wire halyards and have noted > abrasion from same at the masthead. Will replace with rope over the winter, > and per the article referred, mark to ensure a full hoist. > Outside/inside? Outside absolutely, and I should have stated that in my post. > I can't imagine trying to tack that sail inside on a 33-2. > Last, single or short handed? single, with Otto, sibling of George, doing > his thing at the helm. > Thanks again, all set. > > Dave. > _______________________________________________ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like > what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions > are greatly appreciated! > > _______________________________________________ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like > what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. 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