Hi Randy, The cove stripes and stars were actually moulded in as part of the hull. We had about 4 or 5 really true Master Boat Builders at C&C who knew every detail of manufacturing yachts. Gert Tiel was one of those and a real gem. Not to mention, one heck of a nice guy. When we retired on our 43' trawler "Queen Ann's Revenge" we returned to Youngstown, and our home club YYC, twice in our 31,000 miles of cruising. On our second trip, I had the pleasure of running into Gert at YYC while he was surveying a boat. We had a nice visit about the good old days at C&C. Cheers, Hank
On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:15 PM, RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net> wrote: Hank thanks for sharing that - it's awesome to hear from people who were there. Earlier this year I had a phone call with Gert Tiel, when I was trying to figure out how to get my exterior handrails off (turns out a screw head was covered by a piece of bulkhead trim, among other issues). I own C&C 30 MK I hull #7 and race her in Colorado - pictures at https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTY0VBM2hlT0hveDQ. Even in 1972 when my boat was built, C&C was leaving a gap in the cove stripe for a boat name, which a "brochure boat" had (http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/brochures/30foot/30b2pg01.htm). My boat's cove stripes and stars are routed out and painted. Cheers,Randy StaffordS/V GrenadineC&C 30-1 #7Ken Caryl, COFrom: "henry evans via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "henry evans" <hjevans...@yahoo.com>, "Paul Cannon" <cannon...@roadrunner.com>, "Don Finkle" <d...@rcryachts.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:33:02 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover When I first joined C&C Yachts in 77, I think the coves and stars (arrows) were painted. They went to mylar for the stripes shortly thereafter. A few years later they put a gap in the cove so the boat name could be painted there. The stars remained gold painted. Later on we offered the cove and stars in a variety of colors to match boot stripes. The stars remained painted long after the coves went to mylar, but eventually they went mylar tape too. It is interesting that the stars and diamond next to them were never standardized. If you look at C&C's over the years some of the stars are short and stubby, some of them are long and pointed and everything in between. I remember suggesting to George, Rob and David that the stars had become a "signature" of C&C and should be standardized. That never happened while I was there. I think it depended on who was making the hull plug and the hull molds as to how the stars looked. A side story about coves and stars : Butch Cannon headed up a very successful, nationwide architectural firm and was a Past Commodore of the Youngstown Yacht Club in Youngstown, N.Y. which is right across the river from Niagara On The Lake where C&C's were built. He was also a member of RCYC, a legendary racer on Lake Ontario and had many C&C's over the years. While I was working there, he went to RCR Yachts for a new C&C 37. Don Finkle at RCR Yachts in Youngstown sold him the boat and sent Butch over to see me at the NOTL plant to work out the details of what he wanted on the boat. After all the specifics of winches, halyards, etc. he pulled a grey plastic vacuum cleaner nozzle out of his brief case and said "Hank, this is the color I want my boot stipe, cove and stars". I told him we would try and later in the day went to the plant manager with the nozzle and told him what Butch wanted. Everyone at C&C knew Butch and the plant manger just nodded and took the nozzle with a smile. The 37 was about 80% complete when Butch again visited the plant to see her abuilding. He looked at the boot top, cove and stars and questioned if that was the right color grey ? I just happened to have the vacuum nozzle in my pocket, pulled it out and held it up to the stars. The color match was perfect ! Butch just smiled and I handed him back his nozzle. Butch did well racing his 37 and became a good friend and mentor when I served as Commodore of the Youngstown Yacht Club in 1985. We lost him about five years ago, well into his 80's. Cheers, Hank On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:57 PM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: I am sprucing up our 33-2 and am looking for input on the cove stripe and diamond and star colours. I have two boot stripes, the bottom being bright red and the upper a light blue. The imperial polishing compound has brought them up nicely. The cove stripe is mylar and the same color as the boot stripe and the diamonds and stars painted gold. I plan a new red mylar cove stripe, but am undecided about the gold. Can anyone tell me if the gold was original? I would like to restore to original? Any other relevant advice welcome Cheers,DougCeltic Knot85 33-2 cb Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android _______________________________________________ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated! _______________________________________________ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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