Great to hear from you Hank! It's been a while. Hope all is well. I can add that my 1975 C&C 35 MK II did not have the stars / daggers.
Gary S/V Kaylarah '90 C&C 37+ East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~ On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 9:35 AM, henry evans via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I am not sure what year the stars were added to the cove. I imagine Rob > might. I remember the some of the early C&C 35's did not have them. They > were there in 77 when I joined the company. > > I have seen the bow stars where the fore and aft part was as short as 4". > Most were more like 6". And there was one model in the early 80's, where it > was 10". Sorry, I don't remember what model, just that it was much larger > than all the rest. > > Rob's explanation that the drawings just were not around when the plug was > made, sounds logical and is probably spot on. > > Cheers, > > Hank > > > On Wednesday, November 16, 2016 7:50 AM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > Hank, > I forwarded your story and the cove and star issue to Rob Ball and he > responded: > > Gee I thought they were more consistent than that . . . . . > > There is/was a drawing to follow, but of course it was never handy when > the plug builder was at that point in construction . . . . . > > Cheers, Rob > > Chuck Gilchrest > S/V Half Magic > 1983 35 Landfall > Padanaram, MA > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *henry > evans via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:03 PM > *To:* RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net>; cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Cc:* henry evans <hjevans...@yahoo.com>; Paul Cannon < > cannon...@roadrunner.com>; Don Finkle <d...@rcryachts.com> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover > > Hi Randy, > > The cove stripes and stars were actually moulded in as part of the hull. > > We had about 4 or 5 really true Master Boat Builders at C&C who knew every > detail of manufacturing yachts. Gert Tiel was one of those and a real > gem. Not to mention, one heck of a nice guy. > > When we retired on our 43' trawler "Queen Ann's Revenge" we returned to > Youngstown, and our home club YYC, twice in our 31,000 miles of cruising. > On our second trip, I had the pleasure of running into Gert at YYC while he > was surveying a boat. We had a nice visit about the good old days at C&C. > > Cheers, > > Hank > > On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:15 PM, RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net> > wrote: > > Hank thanks for sharing that - it's awesome to hear from people who were > there. Earlier this year I had a phone call with Gert Tiel, when I was > trying to figure out how to get my exterior handrails off (turns out a > screw head was covered by a piece of bulkhead trim, among other issues). I > own C&C 30 MK I hull #7 and race her in Colorado - pictures at > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTY0VBM2hlT0hveDQ. Even in > 1972 when my boat was built, C&C was leaving a gap in the cove stripe for a > boat name, which a "brochure boat" had (http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/ > brochures/30foot/30b2pg01.htm). My boat's cove stripes and stars are > routed out and painted. > > Cheers, > Randy Stafford > S/V Grenadine > C&C 30-1 #7 > Ken Caryl, CO > ------------------------------ > *From: *"henry evans via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *To: *"cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Cc: *"henry evans" <hjevans...@yahoo.com>, "Paul Cannon" < > cannon...@roadrunner.com>, "Don Finkle" <d...@rcryachts.com> > *Sent: *Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:33:02 PM > *Subject: *Re: Stus-List 33-2 original cove stripe cover > > When I first joined C&C Yachts in 77, I think the coves and stars (arrows) > were painted. They went to mylar for the stripes shortly thereafter. A few > years later they put a gap in the cove so the boat name could be painted > there. The stars remained gold painted. Later on we offered the cove and > stars in a variety of colors to match boot stripes. The stars remained > painted long after the coves went to mylar, but eventually they went mylar > tape too. > > It is interesting that the stars and diamond next to them were never > standardized. If you look at C&C's over the years some of the stars are > short and stubby, some of them are long and pointed and everything in > between. I remember suggesting to George, Rob and David that the stars had > become a "signature" of C&C and should be standardized. That never > happened while I was there. I think it depended on who was making the hull > plug and the hull molds as to how the stars looked. > > A side story about coves and stars : Butch Cannon headed up a very > successful, nationwide architectural firm and was a Past Commodore of the > Youngstown Yacht Club in Youngstown, N.Y. which is right across the river > from Niagara On The Lake where C&C's were built. He was also a member of > RCYC, a legendary racer on Lake Ontario and had many C&C's over the years. > While I was working there, he went to RCR Yachts for a new C&C 37. Don > Finkle at RCR Yachts in Youngstown sold him the boat and sent Butch over to > see me at the NOTL plant to work out the details of what he wanted on the > boat. After all the specifics of winches, halyards, etc. he pulled a grey > plastic vacuum cleaner nozzle out of his brief case and said "Hank, this is > the color I want my boot stipe, cove and stars". I told him we would try > and later in the day went to the plant manager with the nozzle and told him > what Butch wanted. Everyone at C&C knew Butch and the plant manger just > nodded and took the nozzle with a smile. The 37 was about 80% complete when > Butch again visited the plant to see her abuilding. He looked at the boot > top, cove and stars and questioned if that was the right color grey ? I > just happened to have the vacuum nozzle in my pocket, pulled it out and > held it up to the stars. The color match was perfect ! Butch just smiled > and I handed him back his nozzle. Butch did well racing his 37 and became > a good friend and mentor when I served as Commodore of the Youngstown Yacht > Club in 1985. We lost him about five years ago, well into his 80's. > > Cheers, > > Hank > > > On Tuesday, November 15, 2016 2:57 PM, doug.welch--- via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > I am sprucing up our 33-2 and am looking for input on the cove stripe and > diamond and star colours. I have two boot stripes, the bottom being bright > red and the upper a light blue. The imperial polishing compound has brought > them up nicely. The cove stripe is mylar and the same color as the boot > stripe and the diamonds and stars painted gold. I plan a new red mylar cove > stripe, but am undecided about the gold. Can anyone tell me if the gold was > original? I would like to restore to original? > > Any other relevant advice welcome > > Cheers, > Doug > Celtic Knot > 85 33-2 cb > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> > > _______________________________________________ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you > wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. 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