Yamaha outboard motors are manufactured at four production bases: the Fukuroi South Factory (Fukuroi City, Shizuoka Prefecture) and group company Yamaha Kumamoto Products Co., Ltd. (Yatsushiro City, Kumamoto Prefecture) in Japan, MBK Industrie in France and Yamaha Motor da Amazonia Ltda. (YMDA) in Brazil.

All Honda outboards are manufactured in Japan.

Smaller Tohatsu outboards (also sold as various "American" brands) are manufactured in Japan, and larger ones are built for Tohatsu by Honda in Japan.

Bill Bina


On 3/13/2017 1:39 PM, johnr via CnC-List wrote:
I see this has degenerated into a useless conversation. I was hoping some of you had experience with this engine or knew of some who have. No help there. BTW - most of American outboard engines are now being made in Asia - largely China.

As for two strokes, you can make nasty remarks about California all you want. The universal opinion in boat clubs up and down the Hudson is that we are moving away from them and with good reason. We have cleaned up one of America's great rivers and we intend to keep it that way.

John McLaughlin
C&C 29-2
Falcon


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To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: svpegasus38 <svpegasu...@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Mar 13, 2017 1:21 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Hidea Outboard Motor

Reading the posts here. I am beginning to see a pattern. I think the problem is California. Get rid of California and the problem goes away.



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Doug Mountjoy
POYC
Pegasus
Lf38

-------- Original message --------
From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 3/13/17 10:03 (GMT-08:00)
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Cc: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com <mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Hidea Outboard Motor

I think there are too many variables to make blanket declarations.

How long before campfires and grilling out get declared as being more environmentally hazardous than all the cars in California? What about exhaling CO2.... Stop breathing?

The biggest problem with 2-cycle engines is that they discharge oil in their exhaust. That oil has been engineered to break down in the environment. Modern companies are engineering 2-cycle oils to provide better lubrication at lower concentrations. Amsoil makes marine and regular 2-cycle oil which they recommend at 100:1 in ALL engines. Its almost hard to believe. I use it and the nice thing is that you really don't smell the 2-cycle exhaust which is so expected. There's no blue cloud when I use my outboard or any of my yard tools.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Mar 13, 2017 8:45 AM, "Bill Coleman via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

    There was a discussion on NPR last week about how 2 cycle leaf
    blowers produce more pollution in California than all the cars!
    Bill Coleman
    C&C 39 Erie, PA
    *From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
    <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Jim Watts
    via CnC-List
    *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2017 9:48 PM
    *To:* 1 CnC List
    *Cc:* Jim Watts
    *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Hidea Outboard Motor
    Is Hidea the plural of Hideous?

    Jim Watts
    Paradigm Shift
    C&C 35 Mk III
    Victoria, BC
    On 8 March 2017 at 16:50, johnr via CnC-List
    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
    Just a quick observation.  Those of us here on the Hudson have
    pretty much abandoned 2 stroke motors from environmental concerns.
    Cheers,
    John McL
    C&C29-2
    Falcon

    -----Original Message-----
    From: David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
    <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
    To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
    Cc: David <davidrisc...@msn.com <mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com>>
    Sent: Wed, Mar 8, 2017 5:49 pm
    Subject: Re: Stus-List Hidea Outboard Motor
    Buy a used 2 stroke Tohatsu or Nissan. Never look back.
    David F. Risch
    (401) 419-4650 <tel:%28401%29%20419-4650> (cell)
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    *From:*CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
    <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> on behalf of johnr via
    CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
    *Sent:* Wednesday, March 8, 2017 2:11 PM
    *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
    *Cc:* johnr
    *Subject:* Stus-List Hidea Outboard Motor
    Do any of you have experience or information on the new Chinese
    made Hidea Outboard Motors? Some members of my club are
    considering them for use on RIB's and other small boats.
    John McLaughlin
    C&C 29-2
    Falcon
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