On my way Bill Mithrandir 35-2
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 10, 2017, at 4:52 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Headed up to Telegraph Harbor on Thetis this weekend. Any other listers > going! > > www.cncrdv.org > > Tom B > > Tom Buscaglia > S/V Alera > 1990 C&C 37+/40 > Vashon WA > P 206.463.9200 > C 305.409.3660 > > >> On Aug 10, 2017, at 3:12 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: >> >> Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Electrical panel (ahycrace) >> 2. Re: Can't close the v-berth door (syerd...@gmail.com) >> 3. Re: Electrical panel (Frederick G Street) >> 4. Re: Can't close the v-berth door (Dave Godwin) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 18:02:04 -0400 >> From: ahycrace <ahycr...@cox.net> >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Electrical panel >> Message-ID: >> <20170810220215.ywqv30763.fed1rmfepo203.cox....@fed1rmimpo305.cox.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Chuck still going to newport next week for the J class races?Gary Kolc >> ?"Liberty" >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> -------- Original message --------From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 8/10/17 3:39 PM (GMT-05:00) To: >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchr...@comcast.net> Subject: >> Re: Stus-List Electrical panel >> Half Magic sports a working Raytheon 1200 CRT radar at the nav station. >> ?Takes a while to warm up and it really draws some serious amperage. ?As >> such I only tend to use it when motoring at night or in fog. ?But it isn't >> awful once you learn to interpret what's out there. ?I even got the owners >> manual and schematic diagram showing all the resistors and stuff..Chuck >> GilchrestS/V Half Magic1983 35 Landfall?Padanaram, MA >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Aug 10, 2017, at 3:03 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> <!-- >> /* Font Definitions */ >> @font-face >> {font-family:Helvetica; >> panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} >> @font-face >> {font-family:"Cambria Math"; >> panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} >> @font-face >> {font-family:Calibri; >> panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} >> /* Style Definitions */ >> p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal >> {margin:0in; >> margin-bottom:.0001pt; >> font-size:12.0pt; >> font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;} >> a:link, span.MsoHyperlink >> {mso-style-priority:99; >> color:blue; >> text-decoration:underline;} >> a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed >> {mso-style-priority:99; >> color:purple; >> text-decoration:underline;} >> span.apple-style-span >> {mso-style-name:apple-style-span;} >> span.EmailStyle18 >> {mso-style-type:personal-reply; >> font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; >> color:#1F497D;} >> .MsoChpDefault >> {mso-style-type:export-only; >> font-size:10.0pt;} >> @page WordSection1 >> {size:8.5in 11.0in; >> margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} >> div.WordSection1 >> {page:WordSection1;} >> -->That looks like a Furuno CRT unit. They are actually quite nice radars. >> ??Joe Della Barbajoe@dellabarba.comFrom: CnC-List >> [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street via >> CnC-List >> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:41 PM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Cc: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Electrical panel?Josh ? is that REALLY?a CRT radar >> display? ?I haven?t seen one of those in years (except for the one somebody >> posted about a few weeks back, found in a river)? ? :^)?? Fred >> Fred Street -- Minneapolis >> S/V?Oceanis?(1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI?On Aug 10, 2017, at 1:31 >> PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> wrote:?https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yVzdkVFMyVGhqRjA/view?usp=drivesdk?Josh >> Muckley?S/V Sea Hawk1989 C&C 37+Solomons, >> MD?_______________________________________________ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish >> to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >> ?https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20170810/f6611a69/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 18:04:45 -0400 >> From: syerd...@gmail.com >> To: Patrick Davin <jda...@gmail.com> >> Cc: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Can't close the v-berth door >> Message-ID: <c4501565-ce05-4aa3-ae33-5fe33bdc1...@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> My 33-2 does that if I crank things too tight. (mast step has been >> rebuilt), and I do not have a hydraulic backstay. It binds at the top of >> the doorframe. >> >> There are there are j hooks that are bolted through the mast that grab the >> cast mast partners/ collar to which the halyard turning blocks are mounted. >> I believe these hooks are there keep the mast collar from being lifted by >> pull of the halyards. There are shims between the base of the mast and >> the step that can slightly vary height of the mast and therefore the >> distance between the hooks and the step. Soooo, without those shims, the >> mast is inclined to press the cabin top down, and therefore the top of the >> head door frame. If shimmed correctly, the hooks don't pull the cabin >> down, but they keep the deck from lifting via halyard pressure etc.. >> If you have a similar arrangement, this could be impacting things. >> >> Dave. 33-2 >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Patrick Davin <jda...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Interesting. I inspected my mast step closely when the mast was out, since >>> I know some LF38s have had that issue. Mine looked okay. Dennis when your >>> head door was stuck, was it binding at the top and bottom edges of the >>> door? Given your cabin roof was being pushed down I imagine that's what >>> would happen. My v-berth door is binding at the sides - the bottom 3 feet - >>> so that makes me think it's due to horizontal squeezing of the hull. >>> >>> I know some flex / compression is natural from the forces of the rig on all >>> sailboats, more so on more flexy boats than on older solid fiberglass >>> boats. The LF38 has no deck tie downs at the fwd bulkhead, just the aft >>> bulkhead. So I'm wondering whether that lack of deck tie downs allows the >>> hull to flex more at that fwd section. >>> >>> -Patrick >>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com> >>>> To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>>> Cc: >>>> Bcc: >>>> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 14:08:47 -0500 >>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Can't close the v-berth door >>>> Years ago, I installed a hydraulic backstay adjuster on Touche'. Hot dog! >>>> Picked the boat up from the yard and went out on the lake to try it out. >>>> Cranked it down and, oops, the head door wouldn't open. Temporary boat >>>> rule: nobody uses the head going upwind. Downwind, backstay off, door >>>> opened fine. >>>> >>>> Didn't take long to discover deteriorated mast step. Tightened the rig, >>>> the mast was driven downward into the boat. The turning blocks on the >>>> mast pushed the collar down, deformed the cabin roof and bound up the head >>>> door. >>>> >>>> Rebuilt mast step solved issue. >>>> >>>> Your experience may be different. >>>> >>>> Dennis C. >>>> Touche' 35-1 #83 >>>> Mandeville, LA >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List >>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>>> I've had this (minor) issue over a year where we can't fully close the >>>>> v-berth door on our Landfall 38. >>>>> >>>>> At first I thought it was just due to heat expansion of the wood in the >>>>> summer, but it started roughly after I tightened the main shrouds a >>>>> couple turns (due to masthead fall off in higher winds). And this winter >>>>> when I had the mast out for rerig I noticed the v-berth door closed fine. >>>>> >>>>> Is this just normal flex for C&C's? Anyone else had this issue? >>>>> >>>>> It's binding at the door jamb and the lower right half of the door. I >>>>> tried to check the bulkhead to hull and deck joints, but it's hard to >>>>> inspect those much since they're covered by a permanent liner. >>>>> >>>>> Releasing backstay tension doesn't help. So I suspect it's the fwd lowers >>>>> or main shrouds that flex the hull the tiny amount needed to squeeze the >>>>> door frame. I double checked that the tie rods are adequately tensioned >>>>> and there's no upward inflexion of the deck at the U-bolts. >>>>> >>>>> The only thing I can think to do would be to sand down the lower half of >>>>> the door edge and revarnish it. >>>>> >>>>> -Patrick >>>>> 1984 C&C Landfall 38 >>>>> Seattle, WA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >>>>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >>>>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>>>> >>>>> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> CnC-List mailing list >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20170810/120ff40a/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 17:11:05 -0500 >> From: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Electrical panel >> Message-ID: <d9ed74be-b782-4f92-93e1-f2a69f7bc...@postaudio.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Josh ? all of the solid-state radar scanners and displays are MUCH more >> energy efficient than their predecessors. The choice of scanner mostly >> comes down to whether it?s going to attach to an MFD, or be a black-box >> unit. If?s it?s going to an MFD, you need to stick with the same >> manufacturer (obviously?). >> >> Furuno, Garmin, Navico (Simrad/Lowrance/B&G) and Koden all make black-box >> scanners. You just need to determine which one will be supported by the app >> you?re going to use. It looks like OpenCPN supports at least the Garmin and >> Navico. I?ve heard really good things about the Novice BR24, so that might >> be an option to consider along with the Garmin scanners. >> >> Just know that if your laptop fails (not unheard of in salt air?), your >> radar is just a big boat anchor attached partway up the mast. The >> purpose-built MFDs are much more robust in the marine environment, IMHO. >> >> ? Fred >> >> Fred Street -- Minneapolis >> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI >> >>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 2:54 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List >>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>> Yep CRT, for the radar, and it works...if I actually knew how to use it. I >>> turn it on from time to time and try to make out contacts but with most of >>> the inland sailing I do it is rather useless. I've seen the newer digital >>> radars seem to work well with storm cells and overlay on the >>> chartplotter...seems much more useful. Oddly enough I literally just spoke >>> to the local yard about having mast and rig work done this winter and >>> discussed replacing the radar. >>> >>> Since you took interest, I'll entertain your thoughts on replacements. >>> With the speed at which technology advances I hate spending money on >>> planned obsolescence items and lean towards OpenSource or at least >>> opensource compatible solutions. IIRC OpenCPN has a module for the GARMIN >>> HD radar systems. >>> >>> Another reason I don't use the radar regularly is that is is an energy hog. >>> ~10amps!! It is also down below and doesn't talk to the chartplotter...at >>> all. It only has NMEA 0183 provisions for course input, time input, >>> sailing instrument input, magnetic bearing input, no outputs. >>> >>> Josh Muckley >>> S/V Sea Hawk >>> 1989 C&C 37+ >>> Solomons, MD >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20170810/21c48d8d/attachment-0001.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 18:12:03 -0400 >> From: Dave Godwin <dave.god...@me.com> >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Can't close the v-berth door >> Message-ID: <c3cf0ba0-f1f1-4817-8431-9cd97cc5c...@me.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I?m thinking that this might be a common issue along the C&C line, at least >> from our vintage years. About a year after I acquired our boat and getting >> the rig rebuilt (I bought it with the mast on the deck as an abandoned >> bank-repo) and the boat in the water the v-berth door stopped closing. >> Worked with a friend who owned a boat-yard and built boats and we couldn?t >> really find a ?good? reason for this happening. >> >> I just ignored it and kept the v-berth door pinned open. It will be >> interesting to see it that still is the case when I finally put the new rig >> (all new rod and running rigging) back in after sitting on jack stands with >> no keel for a couple of years... >> >> Best, >> Dave Godwin >> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin >> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay >> Ronin?s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/> >>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List >>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>> I have the opposite issue with the v-berth door on my Landfall 38; with the >>> boat in the water and the rig under tension, it?s fine, but when the boat?s >>> in the cradle for the winter it won?t close? Kind of a non-issue, I >>> guess? :^) >>> >>> ? Fred >>> >>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis >>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI >>> >>>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 4:33 PM, john sandford via CnC-List >>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have the same problem when the shrouds are tensioned to 17ish% >>>> I recessed the hinges into the frame, which moved the door <>3/16 to Stbd >>>> and allows closing. >>>> Same problem with the aft cabin door. >>>> If I slack the rig enough to close the doors, its scary sailing with the >>>> leeward stuff just flopping around. So I dont >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. 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