I’d like to chime in and endorse Bruce and Chuck. I removed the idler plate assembly when I pulled the rudder and dropped the keel some years back. I intend to replace ALL of the system except for the quadrant which seems to be okay. An inspection of the idler pulleys revealed some play and corrosion. It’s a “cheap” fix that will make me feel much, much better when I’m off watch and trying to get some sleep while underway. ;-)
Go Edson. A great group of folks. Best, Dave Godwin 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay Ronin’s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/> > On Aug 27, 2017, at 1:53 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > This is one area ya don't wanna mess with. Go Edson. I am sure Chuck wI'll > elaborate further... > > > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Date: 8/27/17 9:21 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Bruce Whitmore <bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net> > Subject: Re: Stus-List wheel squeak > > This brings up a good point - As for the cables, where would folks here buy > them? Directly from Edson (expensive) or is there a less expensive, but > still good quality alternative (say from McMaster Carr, Grainger, etc.)? > > Bruce Whitmore > > (847) 404-5092 (mobile) > bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net > > > From: svpegasus38 via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: svpegasus38 <svpegasu...@gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 2:08 PM > Subject: Re: Stus-List wheel squeak > > Had a similar thing happen sailing to Hawaii few years ago on a 1973 Ericson > 35. 500 miles from Hilo I had a steering cable break. Dug out the emergency > tiller, and continued to sail. No anchoring here, lol. Figured out it was > almost impossible to steer a course while looking aft at the compass, chart > plotter was to slow to steer by. We hove to, changed the cable and sailed off > into the sun set, well it did take all day to get to the sun set. Next > morning at 5am the other cable broke. This time the capt was at the helm and > the seas were in the neighborhood of 20ft instead of 4 like the day before. > Hove to again changed the second cable. The owner had changed out the cable 3 > years before using hardware store wire rope. > I heard from a friend, who sailed back to Victoria, that the cables broke > again. > My thought was that he had too stuff of cable for the sheave diameter. > > > > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device > Doug Mountjoy > POYC > Pegasus (for sale) > Lf38 > Rebecca Leah LF39 > > -------- Original message -------- > From: ahycrace via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Date: 8/25/17 20:08 (GMT-08:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: ahycrace <ahycr...@cox.net> > Subject: Re: Stus-List wheel squeak > > Sailing down Narragansett bay a few years ago broad reach 7kts we hear a loud > BANG and no steering. Get the sails down and anchor. We look under the > cockpit and see that the idler plate is so rusted that one of the pullys has > pulled right off. Get the emergency tiller out and attach it motor home....a > very bad day! Check that plate and all of the attached pullys. Edson has all > the replacements if needed. I have pics of the bad plate before i took it > off. I can post them when we get home we are in Newport watching the J class > boats race. > > Gary. "Liberty" 38' Mk ll > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Date: 8/24/17 10:08 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchr...@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: Stus-List wheel squeak > > Richard, > Make sure to use a non-petroleum based lubricant for the bearings that > support the wheel shaft (such as Superlube or other Teflon based grease). > Don’t squirt WD-40 or any light weight spray lubricant into the grease holes > as it will tend to flush any lube out of the nylon caged bearings. You can > also check to see if the bearings are worn if you can move the wheel shaft up > and down, or side to side. There should be no play in the shaft at all.. > > Edson does sell a “pedestal rebuild kit” that includes bearings, circlips and > all the other thrust washers and replacement components for the wheel shaft. > If you go down that road, I’d also take the time to replace the brake shoes > if everything else is apart. > > The other possibility for your squeaky noise is the sheave pins (axles) for > the bronze idler wheels. They ride on plain bushings and in the “old days” > the axles were also bronze, which will wear out eventually and allow the > sheaves to go flying into the bilge under tension at the worst possible time. > If those have never been checked, replaced with stainless pins, or > lubricated as described in Edson’s steering maintenance instructions, I would > certainly do so. Once the sheave pins wear, the sheaves go out of alignment > and the squeaking you hear may be the axles getting ready to let go. > > Finally, the Edson Idler plate at the base of the pedestal is generally made > of mild steel below the deck. Not terribly subjected to the elements, but > they can and will eventually start to rust. Once that happens, sheaves, > cable alignments and other critical steering components can be affected, so > check for a rusty idler plate as well as wobbly sheave uprights. > > Whatever you do, don’t wait for it to fail to fix it.. Boats without > steering are not safe by any stretch of the imagination. The folks at Edson > are very good at walking you through what you need and they have data sheets > on most every C&C Steering system they sold for our boats. > Cheers, > Chuck Gilchrest > S/V Half Magic > 1983 35 Landfall > Padanaram, MA > <applewebdata://98AB9223-1FC6-48EA-85A4-8FA2E3984736> > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel > Aronson via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:42 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List wheel squeak > > Is it an Edson pedestal? If so, there are two places to squeeze in grease > under the compass. If you look on YouTube there are Edson videos on > replacing the bearings and they show the grease points. > > I just did the bearing replacement on my current boat. > > Joel > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Richard Walter via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > Greetings, > > The wheel on our 1978 36-footer has always squeaked to varying degrees. > Anyone found a solution to squeaky wheels? When it comes to getting grease, I > cannot locate a grease fitting (Zerc). Anyone added one? > > Thank you, > Richard > s/v INDIGO > > _______________________________________________ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. 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