Rick,
     My experience, also.
Gary
S/V Kaylarah
'90 C&C 37+
East Greenwich, RI,USA

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On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 1:31 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> That has not been my experience with the Garhauer cars on my 38. Moving
> the car forward under load is usually a 1 handed operation – though close
> hauled with the 155 in 15 knots did take 2. The car doesn’t come back past
> a certain point if you leave the control line cleated when you crank the
> sail in, and then release the control line. Though the point where it stops
> in close to average trim point.
>
>
>
> But if you uncleat the control line as you trim the sail, the car comes
> back as you load up the sheet and you can stop it at the proper trim by
> simply pulling the control line into the cam cleat. (And, of course, once
> you’ve adjusted the trim on STBD, you set the other car while it is not
> loaded up.)
>
>
>
> Then again, my Garhauer EZ G2UB cars are ball bearing cars. And the sheet
> lead aft of the genoa car is to a turning block on the toe rail and pretty
> much flush to the deck (and not rising up to the level of the winch.)
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Washington, NC
>
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>
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>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Matthew
> L. Wolford via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 19, 2017 9:24 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Matthew L. Wolford <wolf...@erie.net>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Adjustable Genoa Cars, 1994 C&C 37/40+
>
>
>
> As much as I like my robust Garhauer cars, Ted’s observations are spot
> on.  We have to put a winch on fore and aft movement under a heavy load
> (even with a 4:1 purchase to go forward).
>
>
>
> *From:* Ted Drossos via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 19, 2017 8:53 PM
>
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> *Cc:* Ted Drossos <replus...@aol.com>
>
> *Subject:* Stus-List Adjustable Genoa Cars, 1994 C&C 37/40+
>
>
>
> I had Harken adjustable cars on my C&C 29-2 and now on my C&C 110. They
> are expensive but they work so much better than other adjustable cars that
> I've used on some of my friend's boats. As a direct real world
> comparison, one of my friends who also had a 29-2 had Garhauer make custom
> genoa cars to fit on his existing Merriman tracks. The fit was great but
> they were extremely difficult to adjust under load. When the tension on the
> control line was released, the car would not move aft. Even when there was
> a considerable wind load on the sail which should have been enough to allow
> it to move on its own. He had to pull on a line that was attached to the
> rear of the car to move it aft. In fairness, the Garhauer cars did not have
> ball bearings like the Harken cars have. My present boat is approximately
> the same size as your boat and the loads generated by the genoa are similar
> too. I have no problem adjusting the lead location even when the sail is
> fully loaded. I would think that if you installed a Garhauer car on a boat
> larger than the 29-2, you may be disappointed unless you don't mind
> unloading the sheet before you make a forward adjustment to the car.
>
>
>
> Ted Drossos
>
> C&C 110
>
> Lady in Red
>
> Long Island, NY
>
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