Ken, you are to be congratulated for having the foresight to secure those files: the former owner for my boat didn't get the build file, and when I bought the boat, it was too late, it, )along with all of the others), had already been destroyed.
Richard s.v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 27 CB; Ohio River, (which is above flood stage) Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -----Original Message----- From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> Sent: Sat, Feb 24, 2018 6:49 am Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 37+ and XL and 37R Factory Invoices and Pricing (1988 & 1989) Hi Mark, I have Build Files for around 40 of the C&C 37/40's. South Shore Yachts threatened to dispose of them some time ago if no one wanted them so I bought from him what he could find so that wouldn't happen. I tried attaching three photos of your Build File but the are too big so I'm sending them to you as Google Drive links. I don't have time to scan these documents right now, I'm off to work at the theatre now, but I can scan a few for you later, Have fun with them. Ken H. PS: Any boats I have Build Files for are noted on the list here: https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/a-list-of-known-c-3740-boat-name.html 20180224_C&C 37 No. 30 The Edge Build File_0081... 20180224_C&C 37 No. 30 The Edge Build File_0086... 20180224_C&C 37 No. 30 The Edge Build File_0087... On 23 February 2018 at 23:09, Mark Baldridge via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Ken, That is cool that you have this info. Do you have the invoice for my 1989 37/40+ #30? I would love to see a scan of what you have. Thanks, Mark Baldridge ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_/) '89 C&C37/40+ "The Edge" ZCC37030A989 Surf City, NC On 2/20/2018 6:42 PM, Ken Heaton via CnC-List wrote: A few more data points for you Paul, I have the Factory Invoices for 16 of the C&C 37+ and XL showing the price paid by the respective Dealers when they were sold new in 1988 and 1989. These are priced in US Dollars.. The average Factory (not Retail) selling price to the Dealer of these 16 boats is US $105,881.00. Add perhaps 20% for Dealer markup. I have more invoices for 10 C&C 37+ and XL sold in Canadian dollars in the same time period. The average is $140,000.00 (Can $). Add perhaps 20% for Dealer markup. I also have the Factory Invoices for 9 of the C&C 37R showing the price paid by the respective Dealers in 1989 and 1989. These are priced in US Dollars. The average Factory (not Retail) selling price to the Dealer of these 9 boat is US $106,494.36. Add perhaps 20% for Dealer markup. I have more invoices for 4 C&C 37R sold in Canadian dollars in the same time period. The average is $140,305.00 (Can $). Add perhaps 20% for Dealer markup. I have no record of what was actually charged to the purchaser except in one case where the boat was sold to an owner in Bermuda, directly by the Factory it appears. He didn't pay much more than a Dealer would have. Have fun with these numbers. Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin S/V Salazar - Can 54955 C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67 Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia https://c-c-37-40.blogspot.ca/p/salazar.html On 20 February 2018 at 18:52, Dreuge via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Ok, I went ahead and ordered an Abstract of Title from the USCG, and it arrived today. >From what I see, there was Preferred Mortgage taken out >in 1981 for $182,408.40. It is not totally clear to me. This seems high. Maybe it included extras and/or assumed interest. Playing around with a mortgage calculator, I see that a $100k mortgage at 9% interest for 15 years gives a total cost of $182,568. But in 1981, the home mortgage rates where around 15%. Working backwards from a total cost of $182k at 15% interest gives a mortgage amount of $73,000. Assuming that the original owners provided 20-25% down payment would give an estimated sale price of $91k - $97k. Same ball park as what Ed noted. The higher price may seem more reasonable. A search on Google shows a listing for a 1981 LF38 for $89k and a listing of a 1983 for $110k in the Sep 1984 issue of Yachting magazine. Here is a summary of the USCG Abstract of Title----- ================================================================================= This vessel was built at Middletown, Rhode Island in 1981 of Fiberglass by C&C Yacths, Inc. for Kiki Toro, Inc. as appears by Certificate of Theodore A. Grant, Master Carpenter for C&C Yachts, Inc. Builder GRANTOR GRANTEE Kind Date Consideration ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kiki Toro, Inc <owners> bill of sale 3-23-81 $1 and og and vc All <owners> Horizon Creditcorp pref. mort. 6-11-81 $182,408.40 & interest and pomc All 3-23-96 Same as total amount =================================================================================== - Paul E. 1981 C&C 38 Landfall S/V Johanna Rose Fort Walton Beach, FL http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. 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