Hi Dennis

Your soft shackle sheet connection looks very interesting.  I wonder if a 
flogging sail during a messy tack might result in a soft shackle releasing.  
Any thoughts?

Thanks

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 3:03 PM
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Cc: Dennis C.
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sheets - What kind of line?

Lots of thoughts on this one.

First, in the interest of candidness, I use 3/8" VPC with an eye on each end.  
I attach EACH sheet to the clew with a soft shackle.  Why?  If I ever want to 
do a sail change on the fly, each sheet must be attached separately.  OK, I'm 
probably more on the racing end of the spectrum than most.

Here's the picture (ignore that it's my blown out cruising sail rather than my 
nice Mylar/Kelar racing genoa):

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsMU9xOXBVd3F5Slk

However, cruiser or racer, you will benefit from soft shackles.  My 35-1, like 
yours, has double lower shrouds.  Sheets attached with bowline knots hang up on 
the forward lowers.  The difference between bowlines and soft shackles is 
significant.  Our 155% genoa now glides through the foretriangle rather than 
hanging up.

So, a strong vote for sheets with an eye and soft shackles.  Whether you use 
one or two soft shackles is your choice.

Also, why do I put an eye in each end of the sheet?  Simple, at some point in 
time you may want to swap ends.

Now, what line?  Do you primarily sail with a 155% genoa?  If so, the the 
distance from the clew to the winch is not great.  On Touche' it might be 6 
feet.  At 2% stretch, that's 1.5 inches.  However, a 155% is the LEAST loaded 
sail.  The foretriangle on a 35-1 is about 320 sq. feet.  155% of that is about 
500 sq. feet.  At 10 knots of breeze, that's about 215 pounds sheet load.

http://www.harken.com/content.aspx?id=9096

215 pounds of sheet load is only about 5% of 3/8" StaSet's 4400 pound breaking 
strength which equates to about 0.7% stretch 
(https://www.ropeinc.com/sta-set.htm).  So now 6 feet of sheet will stretch 
about 1/2 inch.

If you sail with a 100% jib in 20 knots and 12-14 feet of sheet that's a whole 
different scenario and I'd recommend upgrading to a more high tech line with 
more strength or to a larger line.  The load goes up to 550 pounds.

Probably too much info but shows you that what seems like a simple decision is 
really not.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Thomas Delaney via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi listers,

I'm planning on buying new sheets during the Defender Sale. We're a novice 
club-racing boat most of the time, but also do short trips around western long 
island sound.

I've got old polyester core/cover sheets now, and will continue using them with 
my cruising headsails, but I'm thinking of getting Samson XLS Extra-T in the 
same diameter as i have now (3/8") to replace the mainsheet, and for my racing 
headsails. Is there any other type of line I should consider before pulling the 
trigger?

Thanks,
Tom

---
Snow Goose
C&C 35-1
City Island, NY


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