Now that is what they should have done from the beginning!
An Aluminum housing for a pump like that has no place on a boat - 
It is not if it corrodes, but when . . . 

Bill Coleman
C&C 39 Erie, PA


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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Neil 
Gallagher via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2018 8:49 PM
To: Eric Frank via CnC-List
Cc: Neil Gallagher
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 33 MK II Bilge pumps

https://www.whalepumps.com/marine/product.aspx?Category_ID=10009&Product_ID=10005&FriendlyID=Mk-5-Universal

My solution to the corroded Whale pump.  Been working well for about 4 
years now.

Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY

On 5/7/2018 2:06 PM, Eric Frank via CnC-List wrote:
> Corrosion is precisely the reason my Whale manual bilge pump is working so 
> poorly.  In the 9 years I have owned Cats Paw, I have replaced the rubber 
> flapper valves 3 times - most recently last year.  But this no longer solves 
> the corrosion problem of the metal pump, which keeps the flapper valves from 
> closing well.  I also installed a one-way rubber flap valve on the intake of 
> the hose to facilitate priming the pump, but that has been insufficient to 
> solve the problem caused by corrosion of the pump itself.
>
> A similar pump (also a Whale I think) continues to work well.  One reason is 
> that the pump (under the washstand) is not located above the holding tank, 
> but from Dennis’s description, it probably also helps that we use “fresh” 
> water from the water tank to flush the head, so salt water never remains in 
> the pump.  And, of course, most of our sailing is not far offshore, so the 
> holding tank is pumped out by the boatyard launch.
>
> Are there other brands of manual pumps I could replace the Whale pump with 
> that do not have this problem? Perhaps made of a corrosion-resistant 
> material? That might be a better, and more permanent solution.
>
> Eric Frank
> Cat’s Paw, CC35 II
> Mattapoisett, MA
>
>> Hot button rant!
>>
>> If any lister has an alloy (metal) body Whale or other brand manual bilge
>> pump, I *STRONGLY* suggest you disassemble it and inspect the sealing
>> surfaces.  These pumps, particularly when in salt or brackish water
>> service, are subject to corrosion and pitting.  If the corrosion is severe,
>> the pump may not prime or pump.
>>
>> When I bought Touche', I inspected the pump and found it to be essentially
>> unusable due to severe pitting and corrosion on the sealing surfaces.  A
>> service kit would have been worthless.  I bought a new pump.  Before
>> installing the new pump, I disassembled it, coated the sealing surfaces
>> with TefGel and reassembled.
>>
>> Kevin Benoit just bought a 35-2 and ran into the same issue.  He also
>> bought a new pump and coated the surfaces.
>>
>> I clean Touche's bilge about twice a year.  I use the electric pump to
>> empty the bilge until the water is clean dock (city) water.  I then test
>> the manual bilge pump and use it to empty the bilge leaving clean dock
>> water in the pump.
>>
>> If, for whatever reason, I use the manual pump to remove brackish or salt
>> water from the bilge, I flush the bilge with dock water and leave dock
>> water in the manual pump.
>>
>> Please test your manual pump at least annually and inspect it if you've
>> never done so.  This pump may not only save your boat, it may save you and
>> your family!!
>>
>> Dennis C.
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