Listen to James.  His advice is sound.  Don't let the insurance company
push you around.  You want the boat back to where it was before the
grounding, and heating and straightening won't bring it back to the way it
was.


Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR


On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 3:57 PM, jcn--- via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Dave
> I have a C&C 29 Mk2 where the previous owner had hit rocks hard and tore
> the bottom 10 inches off the rudder and bent the rudder post backward and
> to port.  There was also some damage to the bottom of the keel.   I
> replaced the bent rudder shaft with a new one made from 316 stainless as
> part of a rudder rebuild.  Stainless work hardens if bent and while it can
> be straightened you are essentially cold working it again to go the other
> way to straighten and I would be concerned with cracking and overall loss
> of strength.  If you added the required amount of heat to try to anneal to
> compensate you would like damage the fiberglass rudder and foam core as the
> anneal temperature for stainless is high.  If you are operating in a salt
> water environment it is also more severe and higher risk of stress
> corrosion cracking and thus the reason 316 stainless is used vs 304 in
> marine applications.   Marine engineers designed the rudder post to bend if
> hit hard enough once and thus not rip open the bottom of your boat. I'm not
> sure they intended it to get straightened and take the same hit a second
> time and not break off completely or worse.  My recommendation is get a new
> rudder, or at minimum get a new post and have the rudder rebuilt as there
> is likely more damage you don't see inside or at least the foam core had
> been compromised by water getting in which was the case with my rudder.
>  Good luck.
>
> James
> C&C 29 Mk 2, White Magic. SN 001
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 30, 2018, at 3:42 PM, Edward Levert via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> David
>
> If your insurance company is pushing for the repair vs replacement, ask
> them if they will guarantee the repair and any subsequent damages.
>
> Ed Levert
> C&C 34 Briar Patch
> New Orleans, La
>
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 3:35 PM John Read via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> David Who is doing the repairs and what experience do they have? Suggest
>> you call a reputable surveyor ,some other repair yards and of course to get
>> the real answer Nick at Fort Rachel. Best John Read
>>
>>
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>> Sent: 2018-07-30 11:50:47 AM
>> Subject: Stus-List Rudder repair?
>>
>> I have a decision to make on repairing the rudder on my boat after it was
>> damaged in a grounding on a reef.  The shaft is bent and they are proposing
>> to straighten the shaft and then repair the fiberglass.  It was described
>> to me by the surveyor as a common process and no big deal.  He said they
>> used heat and hydraulics to do it while the shaft is still attached to the
>> rudder.  He described one done recently on a Nonesuch as bent worse than
>> mine and came out fine.  I have been looking into having a replacement
>> built, but that is going to take more time and money to do, so I am
>> wondering what the experience and wisdom of the group is on the issue of
>> repair.  Thanks- Dave
>>
>> Aries
>> 1990 C&C 34+
>> New London, CT
>>
>>
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