All of this docking discussion is distracting me from my office work!  I had 
the most wonderful sail last night for our club’s Wednesday “get out the boat” 
outing.  


> On Aug 2, 2018, at 10:59 AM, robert <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> wrote:
> 
> If your spring line is properly/strategically located mid-ship, in some 
> cases/boats it works best a bit aft from midship of the boat with enough 
> forward motion to keep the boat balanced when it slides in against the pier.  
> 
> James you are correct, if the spring line is where it works best (sometimes 
> trial and error at the dock with the engine in forward idles gear, first, you 
> can find the 'sweet sport where she just lays up against the pier/fenders), 
> leave the boat in forward idle and/or what I do is always approach at 2 knts 
> or less, turn the wheel to bring my starboard gate and stern to the pier and 
> step off.
> 
> As soon as I drop my 'snubber spring line' on the aft end pier cleat drawing 
> the boat into the slip because of its forward motion, I have my stern line 
> hanging over the top life line which I just take and drop over the top of the 
> snubber spring line (I'll remove that later) after I attach, depending on the 
> conditions, maybe my bow line next, maybe a spring line, depends on what is 
> happening to the boat.   As I said earlier, I take both my stern line and bow 
> lines with me, the bow line is I think 20 feet, and when I leave the dock I 
> bring it back to my SS toe rail cleat and tie it to it where it stays outside 
> the stantions on the toe rail.....very handy when grab on the pier ....you 
> have a lot of control of your boat.
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA 
> C&C  32 - 84
> Halifax, N.S.
> 
> On 2018-08-02 1:07 PM, James Bibb via CnC-List wrote:
>> Leave the engine in forward hard over. That will counter the spring line 
>> pulling the stern in. It’s similar to heaving to at sea.  
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2018, at 7:47 AM, Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I use the midship SS toe rail cleat without issue.
>>> 
>>> With just a spring line decelerating the boat, how do you stop the bow from 
>>> swinging into the finger and the stern from swinging out?  This is the 
>>> reason I have a stern/spring line combo for my setup.  Tightening the stern 
>>> line from the cockpit (or dock) once the spring is loaded stops that. 
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: robert <robertabb...@eastlink.ca <mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca>>
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> Cc: 
>>> Bcc: 
>>> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 09:36:58 -0300
>>> Subject: Stus-List Docking seamanship
>>> Dennis:
>>> 
>>> One guy at our club single hands his J120 regularly.....he installed a deck 
>>> cleat about mid ship....he approaches the finger pier at approx. 1 to 2 
>>> knts, steps off the boat as the starboard gate meets the pier, picks up his 
>>> spring line which has a 'snubber' and attaches to the mid ship cleat....if 
>>> he wind is strong to blow him off the pier, he leaves the engine in gear at 
>>> idle speed and the boat just lays up against the pier.  Like you, he has 
>>> little room for forward movement once the spring line is attached.    The 
>>> big Nonsuch 36 next to me does the same thing.
>>> 
>>> Another member has a 'line catcher' at the end of his pier where he hangs 
>>> his spring line when he leaves.   On approach, he either reaches out or 
>>> uses a pole to grab the spring line and attaches to his mid ship deck 
>>> cleat....once attached and the boat comes to a stop leaving the engine in 
>>> gear at idle speed, he gets off the boat and attaches his lines.  He 
>>> doesn't step off his boat to attach the spring line as there is too much 
>>> freeboard and he is not comfortable making a jump to the pier from that 
>>> height.....it's a big boat, centre cockpit and no one is going to 'man 
>>> handle' it the way we can with our C&C's
>>> 
>>> My method, earlier described, is similar however I use my main winch 
>>> because I don't have a mid ship deck cleat.....I have one of those SS toe 
>>> rail cleats which I don't think was designed to stop the forward movement 
>>> of the boat, at least I am not going to experiment to find out.
>>> 
>>> Rob Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C&C 32-84
>>> Halifax, N.S. 
>>> 
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