Thanks Josh !! Great vidieos and Really Helpful! But Dang now I need to look up 2 more Knots and get some Amisteel Line to give it a go! Much appreciated !
John Conklin s/v Halcyon From: Josh Muckley<mailto:muckl...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 6:48 PM To: John Conklin<mailto:jconk...@hotmail.com>; C&C List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Docking seamanship Video for you John! https://youtu.be/vmth97mQi2g<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2Fvmth97mQi2g&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cdd6b1d61b2744c028f5f08d5ff135f31%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636695381014034910&sdata=SMwljq3Sj8rqSzOS6LFAv6QklGRNm4ICHjts7e9SIU8%3D&reserved=0> https://youtu.be/DSAMR27tnFI<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FDSAMR27tnFI&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cdd6b1d61b2744c028f5f08d5ff135f31%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636695381014034910&sdata=tgcrVxs73EclLbhTDcnc94M6k558x8GovXHHDwyc7XA%3D&reserved=0> All the best, Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Thu, Aug 9, 2018, 2:24 AM Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com<mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>> wrote: John, This is the picture I could find on short notice. If you want more let me know. These nearly match what I have for loops all over the boat. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1afBcd1_IzkkCOJ2WKb0FJhnHdhcu6E5y/view?usp=drivesdk<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdrive.google.com%2Ffile%2Fd%2F1afBcd1_IzkkCOJ2WKb0FJhnHdhcu6E5y%2Fview%3Fusp%3Ddrivesdk&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cdd6b1d61b2744c028f5f08d5ff135f31%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636695381014191156&sdata=MBLrc68wBnbWreTfOCPkjr8EMorhGuA6KRYlenPfWPE%3D&reserved=0> I use a soft shackle to tie on a spring line at the dock. It is a continuous length of 3 strand that has an alpine butterfly at the correct location. The continuous loop stays on the boat. The soft shackle is luggage tagged to the alpine butterfly so that it doesn't get lost when open. Then the soft shackle is attached to the loop. At foreign slips, I use the same loop on the boat to hold mooring lines which are considerably too large to fit through my toe rail. I like to use a sheet bend to connect the loop to the line. The advantage is that the loop only needs to be large enough for the line to pass through a single time. https://www.animatedknots.com/sheetbend/index.php<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.animatedknots.com%2Fsheetbend%2Findex.php&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cdd6b1d61b2744c028f5f08d5ff135f31%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636695381014191156&sdata=m0rtjrzE%2FzBYhsfPMsMehx8fHrFBVqQ6tuBiSkvYcq4%3D&reserved=0> Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Wed, Aug 8, 2018, 11:55 PM John Conklin <jconk...@hotmail.com<mailto:jconk...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Picture of those Josh ? I just picked up some 1”flat webbing to make a few connection points to run thru toerail will tie or hook to those istead of directly to rail John Conklin S/V Halcyon www.flirtingwithfire.net<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flirtingwithfire.net&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cdd6b1d61b2744c028f5f08d5ff135f31%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636695381014191156&sdata=nnMeir5I4DJVK%2Bce65XGGtZVc2a1fjHYnnk4oQqqZXI%3D&reserved=0> On Aug 8, 2018, at 6:58 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I have numerous "soft shackles" on my toe rail and mast collar. They aren't actually soft shackles but rather small diameter continuous loops that I luggage tag onto the metal fixtures. Each one costs about 18" of amsteel and less than 5 minutes to make. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Wed, Aug 8, 2018, 5:26 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Thanks for all the suggestions. I was over at the boat yesterday and explored several. The one that looks most promising was suggested by several listers, the continuous line from forward to the cockpit. I attached a line to the toerail and brought it outside the lifelines back to the primary winch. I configured it such that, when dropped on the pier's outermost cleat, it will stop the boat and keep the stern from swinging away from the pier. Didn't actually try it but I am optimistic. The challenge will be dropping it on the cleat if single handing. It's a floating pier and the cleat is a couple feet below the toe rail. BTW, I will attach the line to the toe rail with a soft shackle. That will prevent damage to the toe rail anodizing as well as minimize damage to the dock line. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 10:58 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: OK, after 20 years of ownership, I'm pretty good at driving Touche'. Touche's "home" slip in Louisiana is in a fairly protected bayou, has both outboard and midships pilings on either side and a port side finger pier. I can competently back Touche' in using propwalk, etc. without touching any pilings. Whoopee. However, the "temporary" slip I use in Pensacola is a whole different scenario. First, it has a starboard side finger pier which extends to just short of full boat length. Second, it is a double slip with NO pilings between Touche' and my neighbor, an IP 37. Third, the prevailing wind is from the starboard side. In Pensacola, I dock Touche' bow in for privacy and scenic view issues. Docking stern in isn't a desirable option because the bow will fall off towards my neighbor while docking and looking at a scenic bayou is preferable to looking at a working boatyard. So, docking bow in with a wind from starboard and prop walk which pulls the boat to port is a challenge. The wind pushes the boat dramatically to port when docking. The prop walk exacerbates the movement to port. The wind and prop walk both working against the boat sucks. I've tried several techniques with limited to moderate success. The best the Admiral and I have come up with is to approach at a slight upwind angle to the finger pier, have a spring/warp line attached a bit forward of midships, have crew leap off the boat and secure the spring to the outermost cleat on the finger pier to stop forward motion. Once the line is secure, we warp the stern in with forward propulsion and left rudder and secure a stern line. The stern still tries to swing to port midway through this process but we manage it. Now for my main issue. Docking single handed. I can't see myself approaching the pier, putting the boat in reverse, scrambling out of the steering station past the Bimini bows, securing the spring line, jumping back on the boat, warping the stern in and then securing the stern line by myself. Any secret tricks I haven't explored? Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. 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