Hi Steve, I appreciate the direct, no-BS approach, and agree with you, which is why I haven't gone to see the boat yet. Other boats I've literally run out the door to see, including a Nicholson 31 which I missed last month because someone got there first. The owner of this 35 mk2 has sent me a few more photos, and several pages detailing the boat's inventory, including enough new gear in the past 2-3 years to probably justify a 25k price. But I agree on the VW motor, and I'm a VW fanatic... but I don't let anyone touch my vehicles, which is why they last forever, not because I'm perfect, but because I know them well, and listen to them when things don't sound right. That said, if I saw the engine up close and ran it, I might feel differently. But a custom install done by someone else (dual alternators and a drive pulley for the watermaker sounds like a nightmare to me) is not something I'm excited about taking on. If time allows, I may look at the boat just to get a feel for it, and the 35-2. So far, I've only been on a few C&Cs and only looked at a 37 closely. There is a 37 going for $18K with a custom deep keel and tall mast, but it has soggy decks and the interior is original so would need a lot of work. But it has a bunch of really nice sails...
Thanks. On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 4:48 PM Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I like the MKII and I love C&Cs as much as any on this list, but he's not > going to get 30k for that boat. I wouldn't pay 20k for that boat based on > that ad. > It's listed since the summer and it's not sold, it's now winter. Private > seller? How many times do you think he wants to show that boat? > > "Contact me for more details and photos." - <-- that right there is a > non-starter for me. > > He thinks he's going to save time answering the same inquiries over and > over again? Not likely. He's waiting for a buyer that doesn't know what > questions to ask. That ad is missing a tonne of detail and to me, that's a > clear indication of a time waster. I think people sell boats privately > because they don't like the things they hear from brokers, namely, the > market price of their 45 year old boat. > > My opinion is worth what you paid for it and no offence intended for > anyone on this list. I've been around this block a couple of times now, on > both ends. > > Look at broker boats, if you haven't already. I would forego the luxuries > entirely with your budget and focus on an updated motor, rigging, a dry > deck and solid mast step. If you can get a 35 mkII with the above and no > other "frills", I would call that a good deal at 25k. Solar, batteries and > cruising niceties can be added as you go, and then you get new stuff, that > you know how to maintain. The boat in the ad is a project boat. If it > weren't, he'd be bragging about all the hoses he replaced and how new the > .... the? See my point? 45 year old rod rigging on salt water? Marinized VW > in a C&C? That's a replacement motor, last I checked C&C wasn't putting VWs > in their boats. This owner didn't put in a Beta, or a Yanmar - he put in a > used, marinized VW. He doesn't want to pay commission. Too many warning > signs for my tastes. > > But it's got a water maker! never mind that noise > > I like the MKII. I hope you find one, and that it serves you well. > Fair winds. > Steve > > > On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 2:39 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Hi Russ, >> >> Thanks for the reply. It has been listed since the summer, and he seems >> to be dropping the price; I know he is motivated, but it's still a bit >> beyond my budget, and moorage will cost a bit more than the 30' boats I've >> been looking at. >> >> I'm very familiar with VW diesels, currently own two, and have had many >> since the 80s. Not sure how access is since the engine is larger than the >> A4, and economy is probably not as good as a 2-3 cyl Yanmar, although >> tuning the IP might help. Just don't see many marine VWs so not sure how >> they fare in this application - the blocks are bulletproof, but not sure >> about the marine components, manifold/exchanger, raw water pump etc. Sounds >> like it may be a custom job also, so if parts are non-standard that could >> be an issue. >> >> I'll probably arrange to see it, and report back. I'm just trying to get >> the most solid boat I can for about $20-25k CAD, so boats that don't have >> what I need/want (cockpit enclosure for winter is one), or have a bunch of >> stuff I don't need, will mean that I must pay more, or allow for additional >> costs to add things. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 10:18 AM Russ & Melody via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Shawn, >>> >>> The ad identifies her as a 35 mk-2 and only $30,000. >>> >>> Nice set-up for extended B.C. coastal cruising with solar panels, water >>> maker and Solent jib. The Solent jib is a good choice for short-handed >>> cruising but a PITA for tacking the genoa if it can't be moved aft (not >>> practical with the furler on it). The dodger is okay and most coastal >>> cruiser like them. I don't as a personal preference (mostly 'cause they're >>> ugly and impair good visibility while sailing. >>> >>> No stability issues with any of that, or the big honking anchor on the >>> bow. And you will sleep well in a blow. :) >>> >>> The older marinized VW diesels are known for cracked head issues but >>> since it is only operating at 50% load at max (check the prop size) it >>> likely doesn't get hot enough to suffer at the head, but continuos running >>> at low load can lead to carbon buildups (sticky rings & valve problems). >>> >>> For a well found cruiser that appears ready to go I think $30 grand is a >>> bargain. >>> >>> Cheers, Russ >>> ex-* Sweet*, 35 mk-1 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> At 08:27 AM 1/4/2019, you wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am considering a '74 36' mk2, with several modifications, and I am >>> curious about how they might affect the boat in terms of suitability for >>> coastal cruising (BC coast) and possibly a trip around Vancouver Island. >>> Perhaps some here are familiar with the boat 'Callisto' which has: >>> >>> Twin furlers rigged with 150 genoa and 90 jib. >>> VW diesel with dual alternators, reported 4000 hrs. >>> Watermaker >>> Aluminum framed dodger (not the most attractive, but appears well built). >>> >>> The asking price is $32k CAD, which seems high. >>> https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/victoria-bc/c-c-35-mk-ii/1372900178 >>> >>> Interested in thoughts on this boat, and the 35-2 in general. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> -- >>> Shawn Wright >>> shawngwri...@gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. 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