I sail a 1986 CS 30 on the East coast (Halifax area).

Ended up on the C+C list looking for advice regarding a C+C I was looking at 6 yrs ago (similar to you now) - stayed because there is some good information.

If you have questions about the CS30 I can offer some advice

I general I'd agree with the comments you're getting from others on the list - find a basic boat that is well kept, you can work on the details later, or not because you're too busy sailing!

Mark


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On 2019-01-10 12:58 a.m., Shawn Wright via CnC-List wrote:
Hi Steve,

Thanks for the info. I've talked to brokers, but there are so few listings around here that they don't have anything to show me. I have visited and walked every dock within a 2 hour drive from here, but being on an island, that's not a lot of boats, even with cruising grounds in our backyard. There are new private listings starting to appear every day now, but nothing new at the brokers yet. The problem is I have not nailed down what I want yet, so the boats that have interested me are hugely varied, and usually just out of my price range - like Westsail 32, Nicholson 35, CS 36T. The CS 36T I have not been on board, but there are 5 of them nearby, and the interior photos I've seen look great, but it's about double my budget, so I'm now considering the CS 30, but they are much less common here. Lots of C&Cs, but anything over 27' is usually asking too much, like $30K+. I even looked at Catalina 30... 

The only C&C 32 listed here currently is asking $40K, and the broker says it's because the wife says sell, but the husband doesn't want to, so he won't drop the price...
There are a ton of C&Cs here (at WestPort in Sidney they are more common that Catalinas) but the prices seem higher than most places.

I do need to get on board a few more C&Cs to get a feel for them, as I have only been on the 26, 35-2 and 37 so far. And yes, a diesel is a must. Trouble is, I want a decent light air boat that can also handle rough seas that we will sea at times, especially north of Desolation Sound. And that usually means at least 32', which is a challenge to get for $20-25K CAD. 

But I am learning at lot along the way. :)

Thanks

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 6:23 AM Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Shawn, talk to some brokers and look at their boats is my advice. 

This reminds me of a guy who came out to buy a hatchback I was selling recently. The guy drove over an hour out to the countryside where we live to look at the car, and to try his kid seat in it. It didn't end up fitting how he liked. He would have saved both of us a lot of time if he had just gone to a used car lot and done his decision making there. Likewise, you can learn a lot walking the docks and talking to other boat owners, or calling on brokers and seeing their boats. Those folks are literally paid to show boats. Get your short list figured out, buy the first boat that meets your requirements and price point. Go sailing. 

For what it's worth. This is why I priced my boat low when I sold it, and went through a broker. Quick sale, and only the serious buyers will make the effort. First guy who looked at it, bought it. Had to rip the bandage off, it was a hard decision. 

Sorry if my earlier message sounded full of crankitude - I'm boatless, and jealous :)

If you're looking at boats in those size ranges, I REALLY loved my C&C 32. And they tend to be priced lower for whatever reason, they're not great PHRF boats and it seems around here that's what matters. They are a great handling, and sailing boat that one can cruise on in comfort, though. Mine was a 1980, later ones came with diesels, mine had an A4. Purchased for 18k, sold for 25k five years later (and many, many boat bucks of investment and hours of work later - and cruises all over Lake Ontario and Georgian Bay). I sold a turn-key boat with new sails, solar panels, electrical, plumbing, etc etc etc. 

FWIW

Steve


On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 5:57 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Hello all,

Had a look at the 35 mk2 in Victoria, and while it will be a great boat for someone, we've decided it's just not for us. There is a lot of value in recent upgrades, but the quality of workmanship is not quite what I'd like to see, and there is a bit too much complexity in the engine compartment, with dual alternators, watermaker, etc. Having now been on two 35s, I can say that it is still a contender on our list though. The owner is motivated to sell, so if you're interested, I can pass along his contact info.

Thanks!

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 10:30 AM Shawn Wright <shawngwri...@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for all the info. Going to look at the boat today, so I will report back. I was invited on board another '74 35 mk2 yesterday, after viewing a Catalina (am I allowed to say that here...?) 30 and a CS 27. Needless to say, I preferred the C&C, and it just made me more curious about Callisto. If the work done appears to be well executed and not a hack job. Will report back...

On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 9:40 AM Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Agree on condition and will add that it’s well Worth paying a bit more for a boat with recent upgrades, esp if they are the upgrades you’d make anyway.  (The Bimini you’d buy anyway is effectively  free in a used boat).   
35-2 was on my shortlist when I bought my 33-2. 
Vs Toronto area Price seems a bit high (as you’d expect from any seller) but cash is king....  he’s seeking reasonable offers.
Looks like the boat has already been equipped for the uses you have planned, and that hard dodger may be perfect for what you want, especially if you can steer from there, sitting in the companionway.  (Under power Via autopilot)
Curious about the twin furler mod and how the stays are supported. 
Good luck!

Dave

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> On Jan 5, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Steve Thomas <sthom...@bellnet.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Condition is everything, and that is not a high price for a reasonably well-equipped boat in good condition, especially in BC where prices are generally higher, most likely due to the absurd cost of housing.
>
> Steve Thomas
> C&C 27MKIII
> C&C 36
>
> ---- Shawn Wright via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am considering a '74 36' mk2, with several modifications, and I am
> curious about how they might affect the boat in terms of suitability for
> coastal cruising (BC coast) and possibly a trip around Vancouver Island.
> Perhaps some here are familiar with the boat 'Callisto' which has:
>
> Twin furlers rigged with 150 genoa and 90 jib.
> VW diesel with dual alternators, reported 4000 hrs.
> Watermaker
> Aluminum framed dodger (not the most attractive, but appears well built).
>
> The asking price is $32k CAD, which seems high.
> https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/victoria-bc/c-c-35-mk-ii/1372900178
>
> Interested in thoughts on this boat, and the 35-2 in general.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
>
>
>

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