Thanks, this is great info. I will definitely inspect the keel bolts and keel joint if/when we get a chance to look at the boat next. Not sure if it's still available, but I am hopeful, as it would nice to finally get a boat.
On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:47 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > The C&C smile is usually a non-issue. It is nearly always resolved by > torquing the keel bolts and cosmetically repairing the hull/keel crack. > See: > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/doityourself/smile/index.htm > > That's a typical C&C smile. It was fixed by torquing the bolts, digging > out some crumbly stuff at the crack and epoxying a couple overlapping > layers of glass over the crack. The repair shown was done in 1999. It has > not reappeared. Here's the same boat in 2018. > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1UzpgYV6IlfmY6YeK2k3-pcE0ZACotjpJ > > Torquing the bolts is much easier than finding the tools to do it. Most > use a torque multiplier. You may be able to rent what you need. > > The bolts must be individually backed off and then torqued. Doesn't much > matter if the boat is in or out of the water. > > The biggest issue with older C&C's is if the washers/plates under the keel > bolts have not been replaced with stainless plates. If they are plain > steel, they should be replaced with stainless. > > For most older C&C's the smile is a greatly overblown issue. > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 3:05 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Ok, so perhaps a better question to ask - what is the recommended >> maintenance (annual re-torque? I see a torque spec listed on the >> CNCphotoalbum page but no other details), and if the C&C smile is found, >> does the keel need to be dropped to fix it? This boat will be pushing our >> budget a bit, so I want to ensure we're not going to incur a bunch of costs >> right away. >> >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 11:59 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> There is a way to add keel bolts with the keel in place, but C&Cs are >>> not known for losing keels in the first place! >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> Coquina >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 5, 2019, at 11:42 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List < >>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> >>> >>> After another 4 months of boat searching, I am once again considering >>> the 35-2 "Callisto" which began this old thread from January. I have been >>> thinking about it, and when I saw it at the dock while looking at another >>> boat (Crown 28, yes I am getting desperate...), I realized I had forgotten >>> how nice looking the boat is. It still has a for sale sign, and I am >>> waiting to hear back from the owner. I think at 34K he was asking far too >>> much, but at 20K I could overlook some of the not quite up to my standards >>> work done on it. I will get a survey for sure if he gets back to me, and we >>> can agree on a price. >>> >>> Since looking at this boat, I started getting interested in Ericsons, >>> and really liked the idea of the encapsulated keels on their 70s models. We >>> almost bought a 29. But I am realizing that my fear of keel bolts is >>> probably unwarranted, and even Ericson went with bolt on keels by the 80s, >>> and none of them fell off. I hear people talk about replacing keel bolts, >>> but I assume they mean just the nuts, which doesn't seem to make a lot of >>> sense, since the crevice corrosion is likely to a problem with the >>> bolt/stud. Are the bolts J bolts like concrete anchors, or just threaded >>> rod set into lead? I imagine replacing a J bolt would be a huge job. Is >>> replacing them ever actually done? Could you just drill, tap, and thread in >>> new stainless rod in between the original bolts for extra safety? Or am I >>> worrying too much about a mostly non-issue? It's just that most bolt on >>> keel boats I've looked at have water in the bilge meaning the bolts/nuts >>> will stay wet most of the time (probably mainly rainwater/condensation I >>> guess), so it seems like I should be concerned. >>> >>> >>> >>> It's interesting also that after a lot of discussion with the Ericson >>> guys (also a great group of owners, like this group), one of the features >>> of the newer Ericson designs which improves comfort is the flared bow (the >>> 80s models), something which the C&C 35-2 also has. Walking up to this 35-2 >>> a few days ago just reminded me why I was so attracted to it originally. >>> Yes, there are a few things I would do differently, but it's basically >>> ready to sail, as is. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Shawn Wright >> shawngwri...@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. 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