Shawn: 2 years ago, I also bought a 35MkII and subsequently let it go after an unfavorable survey. It was a very difficult decision to make. I really liked the design and solid build of the 35. In the sea trial it sailed beautifully, exactly the way I think a boat should sail. The interior has a good layout.
Sounds like you've got a fair idea of some of the issues, and also the itch to get out on the water. In the end for me, I knew it would completely tap out my budget, and I would have a hard time finding the necessary time to commit to buying a project boat. If I had deeper pockets and was semi retired or retired and able to commit the money and enormous amount of time, I would have kept it. People who've successfully restored boats (houses,cars etc) are rewarded by a sense of accomplishment that's hard to compare. So my advice would be to take those factors into consideration. By the time we let the 35 mkII go the few other possible boats were gone and that was certainly a bummer. We looked at that same boat the second the put it up for sale. We wound up having to wait until the next spring before a very clean, well maintained C&C 32 came up that we grabbed. I'm very happy with that decision. Ironically there's another same year and color 32 currently on Craigslist. If you do look at it, the Yanmar 2GM engine should have the exhaust mixing elbow removed and the head inspected for internal deterioration from a cracked elbow leaking salt water back towards the head. It's an issue known for killing that otherwise great engine. Eric On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 7:31 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Oh yeah, a few more things. I sounded the decks, and although there is > some creaking when walking between the mast and hatch area, sounding gives > a consistent sound. The only place that was different was around the > chainplates, but it was almost completely just inboard and outboard of > them, which is directly above the chainplate bulkhead, so I think that may > be the sound difference I heard, as they were all the same. No leaks > showing when I was on the boat all day in the rain. > > The port bulked shows moisture around the top edge (not bottom edge) like > it leaked at one point but not sure where from, and the bulkheads on both > sides of the head on port side are a bit loose at the cabin top. Tabbing is > good, and was re-done by previous owner. Is it normal for bulkheads to be > loose at the top? I can imagine they might move around a lot in rough > weather like this, which doesn't seem good. > > > On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 7:23 PM Shawn Wright <shawngwri...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> We're getting down to the final days before closing on the C&C 35-2, and >> I'm getting a bit discouraged by the number of things needing work, and the >> way in which the previous owner did a lot of things: >> >> -the electrical is a mess, with the original fuse panel having quite a >> few additional switches, and while the original wire runs have been >> replaced, seeing the quality of work make me want to just rip it all out >> and start again. Most of it works, and the junctions are >> soldered/heatshrunk, but it appears that left over wire was used in many >> places. >> >> -the engine is *very* complex, and scary to try to comprehend, with hoses >> criss-crossing between the engine and both cockput locker areas for a >> watermaker, two heat exchangers, hot water tank, etc. Lots of valves and >> very little consistency in hose or valve type/diameter, and mix of plastic, >> steel and bronze fittings. >> >> -the engine itself is a VW 1.6 diesel, which I am intimately familiar >> with, having worked on many, but it's all the custom marine add-ons that >> worry me. It runs well, but I know that this probably the primary reason >> the boat has not sold for a year. Imagine a typical marine engine, then >> multiply the hoses and valves by 4-5x. >> >> -windows are original and completely opaque, although they amazingly >> don't seem to leak >> >> -it has space for 3 pairs of 6V golf cart batteries, but only 4 >> installed. I found the cables for the other 2 batteries lying loose, not >> taped, and was shocked (pun intended) to find they were live! I taped them >> off quickly. Stuff like this on a boat just makes me wonder what else I >> will find, although I've scoured the boat pretty heavily, so have probably >> found the worst of it. >> >> On the positive side, we took it out in the harbour today in winds of >> 20kn with gusts to 35 and the engine easily powered her to 5kn into the >> wind and 6.5kn downwind. Getting her out and back into the dock was a >> challenge though. I would have preferred to stay out and try sailing to see >> how she handled, but the owner was not keen on it. >> >> The problem is this: I have spent a year trying to find a boat, and now >> just want to go sailing. There is a nice looking C&C 30 for about the same >> price right next to it, and another across town that I looked at before, in >> excellent shape. Or there is an Ericson 29 that is spartan but meticulous >> kept for half the price. I know the Ericson is much slower (rates around >> 195) but they sail quite well I'm told. I'm just having a hard time coming >> to terms with spending $22K for a boat that needs so much work, even a >> 35-2. Someone who is less particular than me might not see a problem, but I >> suspect many others have, or the boat would have sold already. The owner >> already told me that even if I find problems he will not go below $21500, >> since he has two other buyers waiting, so I have to decide if this boat is >> worth it given the amount of work it will need in the future. I suspect >> when it comes time to sell, I will not be able to do so unless I drop a >> more common engine in. >> >> Buying a boat should not be this difficult! >> >> -- >> Shawn Wright >> shawngwri...@gmail.com >> > > > -- > Shawn Wright > shawngwri...@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > >
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