Matthew, Interestingly, this boat has had much of the work you describe done by the previous owner - hull & deck painted, barrier coat, delamination fixed with epoxy, new holding tank, retabbed bulkheads. The electrical panel is ugly and original, and the engine install is very complex and messy, although functional.
I would find it much easier to walk away if I hadn't been at this search for a year already and seen how few good boats there are here for $25K. My backup plan is to buy a nice $10K boat and keep looking for the right boat. It seems crazy that there are plenty of really nice, clean 28-29' boats for $10K, but once you get to 30', the price doubles. If I'm willing to consider a lesser known boat, like a Crown 34 or San Juan 34 (same boat basically), there is one of each in really nice shape for $24K. Although they are pretty decent boats, I don't like the interior layout as much. On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 7:59 AM Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > IMHO, you can get a lot of boat for $20K these days if you’re willing to > buy an older one and have the patience to find a good one. I paid $25K for > my 1978 34 in the 1990s. I ended up selling it about six years ago for > $22K. In the meantime, I repainted the hull, added a barrier coat on the > bottom, replaced most of the standing rigging, replaced all of the running > rigging, replaced the old fuse panel Blue Sea circuits, re-wired the 120V > shore system, replaced the old windows with opening Lewmars, re-tabbed the > salon bulkheads, replaced the holding tank and toilet, replaced all the > sails for local club racing, etc. By the time I was done, the boat was > worth $40-50K. Nevertheless, the market for a 1978 boat was less than the > $25K I paid for it. > > The bottom line is you need to find the right boat. Given all the > discussion, it sounds to me that Shawn has not. > > *From:* Neil E. Andersen via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:43 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Neil E. Andersen <neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 concerns > > > Jim, > > > > I think your friend is overly pessimistic. We are not seeing that kind > of differential on boats here on the east coast where my firm operates > (MD, VA, SC, FL). > > > > Neil > > 1982 C&C 32, FoxFire > > Rock Hall MD > > > > Full disclosure, I am a Yacht Broker > > *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> *On Behalf Of *jim > aridas via CnC-List > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:36 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* jim aridas <jarid...@msn.com> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 concerns > > > > The market for auxiliary sail is SO soft. For 25k you can get a really > great turn key boat. Most boats are selling for 1/2 of asking price, as per > a friend who owns a yacht brokerage company out of Central NJ. > > Jim > > Galaxy 34 > > Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of > rjcasciato--- via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:28:28 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* rjcasci...@comcast.net > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 concerns > > > > Shawn, I agree with Bruce...... > Let this one go.... > If you're retired, then you are already operating on "Life Minutes ".... > Don't spend them of stuff like this.... > > Ron > Impromptu > C&C 38 MKII > 1977. > > My boat looks and races like it just came out of the mold.....you don't > want to know how much time and money that takes. > > > > Sent from Xfinity Connect Application > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net > Sent: 2019-04-24 7:24:48 AM > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 concerns > > Hi Shawn, > > > > Realistically, I think you should walk away from that boat. There are > just too many owner modifications that have not been done by someone who > knows what they are doing in a marine environment. Consider finding the > right boat, even at a distance in the right condition at the right price, > even if you have to have it trucked to you. You'll end up spending the > equivalent cost to move the boat just getting this one in proper shape, > and you'll avoid a lot of heartburn. > > > > When we bought our boat, we knew that the fresh water, propane, and > charging system all had issues, the sail covers desperately needed to be > replaced, and while kept relatively clean it had basically sat at the dock > for years. However the boat was basically sound, having had a lot of > professional upgrades added 8 years earlier. Two years later, we have a > great boat, but our project list has now exceeded 200 individual small > projects, we're down to 22 short term and 15 long term (mostly to be done > at haulout). Yet, last weekend I found another where a wire leading out > from the battery charger had corroded due to poor installation. That, in > turn is driving me to add a 3rd battery to the house bank while I'm at > it... And, though I enjoy working on my boat, I'm getting a little tired > seeing a list with some of the same items still staring at me 24 months > in. > > > > There's no way I would intentionally buy a boat that I think might need to > be fully rewired. Good wire and connectors add up more quickly than you > think, and that's one of those jobs that will require a LOT gymnastics > inside of tight places! > > > > Sorry to be the downer here, but you're asking for opinions... > > > > Bruce Whitmore > > 1994 C&C 37/40+"Astralis " > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet. > > > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. 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