Shawn — am I correct in recalling you’re talking Canadian dollars?  If so, 
$21500 CAD is around $16000 USD at today’s exchange rate.  That’s a pretty low 
amount for a decent shape 35-foot C&C, even given its quirks.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Apr 29, 2019, at 9:54 AM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm glad to see such great dialog on this topic, and appreciate all the 
> varied responses. Someone on the C&C FB group posted a video from a race in 
> Ladysmith on Saturday, with only 3 boats braving the 25-40kn winds. I was 
> sitting on the 35-2 at the dock that day and felt her shudder under the 
> gusts. In the video I noticed how well the C&C 29 (mk2 I think) handled the 
> conditions, cutting cleanly through the waves, while another boat, in the 
> 32-35' range, with longer overhangs, was bobbing and hobby-horsing in the 
> small chop. Of course, the C&C easily outsailed the larger boat, and looking 
> far more comfortable doing it.
> 
> My wife and I spent some time on the boat last night with plan to make a 
> final decision - we made a list of pros/cons for the boat, but still couldn't 
> make a final decision, except to agree that we both feel it is overpriced. 
> There are two many things that need attention before we can feel good about 
> this boat:
> 
> Electrical - she had a dream that the boat had an electrical fire. I might 
> put this down to her fears, if I hadn't found the live battery cables for the 
> third battery bank sitting uninsulated - these cables making contact could 
> have easily started a fire. So I have to wonder what else is at risk.
> 
> Cleaning - the boat is dirty inside and will require several days of 
> cleaning. It is tidy, but looks like it hasn't had a good deep clean in 
> years. The cushions may be original, and there is a musty boat smell which is 
> likely in the foam. The zippers are seized, so removing the covers (they are 
> otherwise in ok shape - oatmeal coloured fabric) may destroy them. The seat 
> backs are stapled in, so there is no good way to clean them aside from a 
> surface clean. So the old boat smell may not be easy to resolve, and new 
> cushions is several boat bucks I expect, even if we do some work ourselves.
> 
> Interior condition - many holes in the ceiling liner, some of them filled 
> with epoxy leaving yellow stains which may be impossible to remove, even if I 
> can cover the holes. Most of the teak panels have some kind of holes or 
> damage in them, not horrible, but still detracts from the feel of the 
> interior. No water damage fortunately. 
> 
> So the boat is being hauled tomorrow (I paid for). I will call the owner 
> today to discuss, but I doubt he will be willing to make any concessions on 
> the deal, so that may be the end of it. If he is willing to drop the price to 
> $20K so I can put toward new electrical and cushion cleaning/repair, there is 
> a chance we would go ahead, but this still leaves a whole lot of work for me 
> to do in two weeks. 
> 
> I just keep hoping another suitable boat will come along to make it easier to 
> walk away from this one, but anything less than another 35 will seem like a 
> step down.

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