Hard to tell from the photo but I had a boat surveyed and the keel looked 
similar to your picture. The surveyor looked aft of the keel, and went inside 
and promptly removed all the floor boards. It had a grounding, and from what he 
said had a very poor (cosmetic) repair done.


/John

> On Sep 28, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  Anything can be repaired,  but I wouldn't undertake that job - I would walk 
> away. It is quite possible that the structural stringers in the bottom of the 
> hull have been broken. 
> 
> On the other hand, if you can verify that structurally everything is sound, 
> it might just need some patching and fairing. Unfortunately, the bottom was 
> painted  - possibly to hide the damage. 
> 
> Marek 
> Ottawa On 
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: nausetbe...@optonline.net
> Date: 2020-09-28 16:47 (GMT-05:00)
> To: 'Stus-List' <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Potential "Next" Boat - Keel Issue ?'s
> 
> I looked at a boat yesterday that seemed like a good contender for a “next” 
> boat, right up until just prior to leaving I looked more closely at the keel 
> and found something that does not look particularly good.  I am hoping for 
> some sage advice from the list, as in a) walk away, or b) might be repaired, 
> and if so what would be entailed and is it worth it.  This would have to be 
> on the current owner’s tab, or a very hefty discount in the price. 
>  
> I tried to attach low res pics but that exceeded the list max message size, 
> so here is a link I hope works: 
> https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNHJ22k8kS3ukfBzXz67enViRMDw3GAOASwiS49uupKViTIDFeNzLj1LE_pav81Yw?key=QkR1X0FXWlgyclBzY1JYcUtIckRJRGh3dzIyMURR
>  
> The keel has a fairly significant crack extending at least 18” aft from the 
> leading edge.  [The bottom was recently painted and I did not try to follow 
> it further aft.]  That gap [in the attached photos] is at least 3/8” on the 
> horizontal axis and about ¼” on the vertical.  The trailing edge has some 
> cracks which are not overly visible, again due to the bottom paint.  
> Unfortunately I did not look closely at / around the keel bolts, nor do I 
> have any internal photos, as I noticed this after the boat was closed up.  
> The boat is 4 ½ hours away so getting more photos is not feasible.  
>  
> To my untrained eye it appears there was a hard grounding and the keel almost 
> seems to have shifted aft in addition to down, based on the angle of the line 
> from the fairing of the hull down to the leading edge of the keel.  But there 
> does not appear to be any movement aft at the trailing edge, though possibly 
> it was punched up.  This does not appear to be along the sump / keel joint as 
> the crack is angled upwards and is not horizontal.  The owner claims there 
> have been no hard groundings when asked directly, only a handful of soft 
> groundings, predominantly in sand, but I have read even that can do damage.  
> The boat was recently under contract and surveyed and that buyer decided 
> against going forward.  The reasons given by the broker did not include any 
> mention of damage revealed during the survey.  I do not have a copy of that 
> buyers survey. 
>  
> Any thoughts on what would need to be done to remedy this, or am I better off 
> to move on and keep looking?  Should the keel be dropped and the keel bolts 
> examined?  Or would there be other, less intrusive / expensive fixes which 
> would be sufficient and safe?  I realize it is difficult to really determine 
> the best repair without physically examining the boat but any advice on what 
> likely would be required is appreciated. 
>  
> Thanks,
> Brian
>  
>  
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