John, could you elaborate on these screen sanders of which you speak? I would 
like to see what you are referring to.

 

Thanks

Bill Coleman

 

From: John McCrea via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 11:54 AM
To: Stus-List
Cc: Hoyt, Mike; John McCrea
Subject: Stus-List Re: Bottom painting question

 

Yes, but has to be dustless. They have some real high end screen sanders that 
we can rent. 

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On Jan 8, 2021, at 10:40 PM, cenelson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

 Yes—at least some do. OTOH I did that once, took about 4+ 8 hr days with a 
sander above my head and all the protective breathing gear on.

 

Swore then that I would “...nevahh...”

Attempt that again. Same feeling after my first and last water skiing 
success—once was enough!!


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On Friday, January 8, 2021, 8:48 PM, Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com> wrote:

does your yard allow owners to sand their own bottoms?

 


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From: cenelson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: January 8, 2021 9:26 PM
To: C&C List
Cc: cenelson
Subject: Stus-List Bottom painting question 

 

My 1995 C&C 36XL/Kcb is used mainly for local club racing with occasional 
forays to CRW. I think her PHRF of 120 is reasonable and at CRW she finished in 
the middle of her PHRF class in spinnaker racing boat for boat with a similarly 
rated J-30 whose rating was the same because of a penalty for an oversized 
pole. 

 

About 2 years ago, I had to strip the bottom to the gel coat since the bottom 
paint build-up was excessive. Two coats of barrier coat were applied and then 
Petite Black Widow was improperly sprayed on by my yard—they admitted they were 
unfamiliar with how much it needed diluted to be applied (afterward), when the 
barnacles showed up much sooner than expected, likely a result of too thin a 
layer of this paint.

 

I had them repaint the bottom with Petite Vivid, with which they were familiar, 
and they rolled it on with a short nap roller to avoid the extra expense of 
tenting, etc. for a spray paint application of the same paint—which they had 
done in the past.

 

I am contemplating going back to a smoother bottom and several local yards have 
agreed that the solution is to rough up the current hard ablative Petite Vivid, 
apply/roll 2 more coats of the same and then manually sand/burnish the bottom 
by sanding these coats smooth, basically sacrificing some of the just applied 
paint to ensure a smoother bottom.

 

I get it, especially since 2 independent yards proposed this, as more 
practical/less expensive than my initial thoughts of sanding the current paint 
down and then spraying several coats of Vivid.

 

This work by the yard will cost ~$4-5000.

 

My question for the list, especially the racers, is how do I maintain this 
sanded bottom when I must reapply another coat or 2 of bottom paint next year? 
Must I repeat the process (roll on 2 coats and sand smooth) for another $5000? 
If so, I am not sure if I should proceed. A ~$2000 per year bottom refresh is 
tolerable—a $5000 per year is NOT.

 

So how do the racing listers keep your boat bottom in ‘racing’ condition year 
to year?

 

Must I ‘bite the bullet’ at $5000 each year or is there an alternative that is 
less expensive and thus more reasonable? I will not do it myself—to much work 
not to mention the hazard of the paint dust/vapors/etc.

 

Charlie Nelson

1995 C&C 36XL/kcb

Water Phantom ex



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