Hey Shawn, You might like Thixo Flex better. It comes out like a thickened brown gel. I usually use a plastic putty knife to level the surface but you can leave it proud if you prefer.
Chuck S > On 02/17/2021 11:52 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > > I used Six10 on my keel joint at West's recommendation. Haven't hauled > yet to see how it has held up, but it seemed to work well enough. A bit > difficult to work with, but I don't have much experience with epoxy. I use it > without the mixing nozzles for small jobs, including some holes in the deck, > but I noticed it is still not quite thick enough to prevent levelling out, so > I had to tape a plastic piece over the top to keep it flush with the deck. > > -- > Shawn Wright > shawngwri...@gmail.com mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com > S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35 > https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 8:34 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: > > > > There is a West equivalent to the Thixo Flex. Also fits > in a caulking gun. I believe it is 610. Same nozzles.A couple bucks more, > but available most places that sell West. > > > > Joel > > > > On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 10:08 AM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List < > > cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: > > > > > > > Learned these things the hard way: > > > > > > The 3M heavy duty shipping tape is a great product and > > > available everywhere and doesn't leave a residue like duct tape. After > > > the epoxy cures, it peels right off and will leave the final surface > > > smooth. > > > > > > If you use 404 High Density Filler instead of 406, you'll > > > find it is heavier than air and doesn't blow around like 406. The same > > > when sanding, the dust falls instead of blowing into your lungs or onto > > > the neighbor's boat. > > > > > > A small wet vac is a must on the boat for any of this work. > > > I like a 6 gallon with big strong motor like 4.5HP peak and I add the > > > extra long hose. I glued a piece of carpet to the bottom so it doesn't > > > scuff the deck or cabin sole. I keep a paper bag in it and I can > > > position the machine in the middle of the boat and reach from bow to > > > stern. Be mindful where the exhaust is pointed. > > > > > > Another great product I started using is Thixo Flex, a > > > flexible epoxy in a caulking cartridge from Jamestown Distributers. It > > > provides a 45 minute working time and there's much less waste. The two > > > parts mix in the nozzle and when you're done, you release the trigger and > > > let the product cure in the nozzle tip. When you want to use it later, > > > just change the nozzle and start again. Extra nozzles are cheap. > > > > > > Chuck S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 02/17/2021 9:17 AM Matthew via > > > CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ron: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have found that black Gorilla “duct” tape works well, > > > > although I may try the 3M mailing tape someone suggested. Also, if you > > > > are using West System, before you put in an epoxy mixture (like > > > > colloidal silica), you are supposed to “wet” the surrounding area first > > > > to ensure a strong bond. (The exception is cotton filler, which is not > > > > as strong but will weep epoxy into the surrounding area.) Wear a good > > > > filter mask when mixing colloidal silica. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bigger, open holes are handled differently than bolt > > > > holes. For example, when I replaced my deck fills last year (about a 2 > > > > inch open hole), first I removed some of the wood deck core exposed by > > > > the hole. I could have wetted the wood with a disposable paint brush > > > > -- I like the plastic bristles, which do not fall off during > > > > application – but instead I decided to tape the entire hole underneath > > > > with Gorilla tape. I then filled the hole with epoxy, went down below > > > > and removed the tape while using a container to catch the epoxy > > > > draining out, used the same epoxy for the colloidal silica mix, then > > > > troweled the mix back into the deck core area where the wood had been > > > > removed. There was no doubt about wetting the surface using this > > > > method. The colloidal silica mix was a mayonnaise consistency and did > > > > not need support underneath while it cured. When the mixture cured, I > > > > used one of those round sanding drums that go into your drill to smooth > > > > the cured surface, then installed the new deck fills. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you’re just doing bolt holes, on the other hand, no > > > > need for colloidal silica and all that fuss – just tape underneath and > > > > pour straight West System. Use the slow hardener, and MAKE SURE THE > > > > TAPE FULLY COVERS THE HOLE AND IS ON FIRMLY (or you will have a big > > > > mess on your hands). You’ll lose a little volume after the pour as the > > > > epoxy works its way into the wood core. I usually go back and top it > > > > off. If you lose a lot of epoxy, something is wrong – check the tape. > > > > If there is no leak at the tape, some internal communication is going > > > > on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 8:16 AM > > > > To: 'Stus-List' <cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > > > Cc: Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com > > > > mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com > > > > > Subject: Stus-List Re: adding tracks to deck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Put tape on the underside to cover the holes before > > > > filling with thickened epoxy. Then once cured drill appropriate sized > > > > hole in the epoxy for the fastener. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike Hoyt > > > > > > > > Persistence > > > > > > > > Halifax, NS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List > > > > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > > > Sent: February 16, 2021 7:26 PM > > > > To: Matthew via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > > > Cc: Ronald B. Frerker <rbfrer...@yahoo.com > > > > mailto:rbfrer...@yahoo.com > > > > > Subject: Stus-List Re: adding tracks to deck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you do anything special to keep the epoxy in place > > > > until you can put some tape under the glob? > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > Wild Cheri > > > > > > > > C&C 30-1 > > > > > > > > STL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, January 24, 2021, 01:31:10 PM CST, Matthew > > > > via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding Dennis’ comment about overbored holes being > > > > hidden by the track, a trick I like to use is to drill up from > > > > underneath and stop when the bit encounters the underside of the deck. > > > > The result is that the hole on the deck surface stays the same size. > > > > In addition, you know precisely where to place the deck fitting and > > > > drill the new hole. > > > > > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to > > > > the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your > > > > support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- > > > > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that > > > > contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want > > > > to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- > > > > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Joel > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to > > help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list > > - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > Thanks - Stu > > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to > > help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list > > - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > > - Stu >
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
