I am facing a similar decision now. My two jib halyards were new when I
bought her two years ago, and are still like new. They appear to be a good
low stretch double braid with a distinctive square pattern; I've been told
it looks like Marlow. They are quite thin, 5/16" or so, but seem to have no
more stretch than the main which is 7/16 or 3/8 (hard to tell for sure, it
is a bit worn, but shows no significant chafe anywhere. My new nylon
sheaves are a bit narrower, so the main halyard is a snug fit. It will
work, and I will probably try it for a while, but when I do replace, I will
probably go to 3/8 or even 5/16 in a low stretch double braid. Has anyone
tried these, or this brand?
https://www.lanexyachting.com/en/ready-made-halyard/p-32/

--
Shawn Wright
shawngwri...@gmail.com
S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto


On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 2:32 AM Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> My main halyard was chafing where  it rested on the masthead turning block
> when the sail was furled, I expect because I was clipping its halyard to
> the lifeline, later switched to the end of the boom.  I had neatly spliced
> a shackle for the headboard. So I couldn’t ‘freshen the nip’ by shortening
> the halyard, nor could I end-for-end it to extend its life.  So, next time
> no splice, I will simply tie it.  thanks for the suggestion josh. It’s worn
> enough that next time is now...
>
> The halyard is specified as wire/rope, 94’ total, and the rope diameter is
> 7/16”.   I had switched to rope previously, some kind of mid priced low
> stretch Dacron double braid.
>
> Other than comfort - is there any reason I must use 7/16, or could I
> reduce to 3/8”?  It’s a pile of line to stow when the main is set.
> Any line recommended for ease of coiling  and handling? (Would be a
> nuisance to have to wrassle with it...)
>
> Thanks all.   Dave
>
>
> 33-2
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 28, 2021, at 12:59 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Yes Ron, double braid is really the only best option.  It appears that you
> have interpreted the graph in the same manner as I.  There are a few other
> factors that are going to impact your choice.
>
> I got the Samson XLS dirt cheap for my check stays.  I chose it for its
> cost first, color second, and ability to splice core to core third.  It has
> performed fine in this application.  My only complaint is that it doesn't
> flake neatly and I'm regularly fighting with hockles.  Sta-set has never
> given me the problems that XLS does.  If you can find the novabraid in a
> desirable color I might suggest pursuing that option.
>
> There is a color scheme that I found online which you may want to
> consider.  Green for mainsail, blue for headsail, red for spinnaker.
> Solids for halyards.  Various fleck colors and patterns for the sheets and
> control lines.  In this manner you and anyone else can quickly identify any
> line associated with the mainsail because of its "green" scheme.
>
> And since you are talking about a halyard, a lot of people like to make a
> core to core eye splice for attaching to the headboard shackle.  Consider
> that the spice will stiffen and thicken line for 1 to 2 feet.  This is the
> exact area where the line will pass through the masthead sheave.  It is
> also the place where added resistance when hoisting the main is least
> desired.  Instead you might try a double over hand on itself.  Read more
> here:
> http://www.caves.org/section/vertical/nh/46/doitie.html
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 21:40 Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks folks for all the responses.  I know a lot more than before,
>> although still sadly lacking.  Thanks for the PS article which helped some
>> as well.
>> If I've understood correctly, the general consensus seems to be a double
>> braid is the way to go for a guy just cruising around.
>> I did remember one response that mentioned that Sta-set might be more
>> expensive than needed.  What would be cheaper versions of a double braid.
>> Would Novabraid and Samson XLS be examples?  I do recall the Samson name
>> from decades ago.  Was there a double braid from Samson cheaper than XLS
>> that's still around?
>> Ron
>> Wild Cheri
>> C&C 30-1
>> STL
>>
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