Take a look at Marlow D2 Club.  It uses a cheaper dyneema core (SK38) than
racing lines, but stretches much less than Sta Set for almost the same
price.

Joel

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On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 11:24 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I am facing a similar decision now. My two jib halyards were new when I
> bought her two years ago, and are still like new. They appear to be a good
> low stretch double braid with a distinctive square pattern; I've been told
> it looks like Marlow. They are quite thin, 5/16" or so, but seem to have no
> more stretch than the main which is 7/16 or 3/8 (hard to tell for sure, it
> is a bit worn, but shows no significant chafe anywhere. My new nylon
> sheaves are a bit narrower, so the main halyard is a snug fit. It will
> work, and I will probably try it for a while, but when I do replace, I will
> probably go to 3/8 or even 5/16 in a low stretch double braid. Has anyone
> tried these, or this brand?
> https://www.lanexyachting.com/en/ready-made-halyard/p-32/
>
> --
> Shawn Wright
> shawngwri...@gmail.com
> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35
> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 2:32 AM Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
>> My main halyard was chafing where  it rested on the masthead turning
>> block when the sail was furled, I expect because I was clipping its halyard
>> to the lifeline, later switched to the end of the boom.  I had neatly
>> spliced a shackle for the headboard. So I couldn’t ‘freshen the nip’ by
>> shortening the halyard, nor could I end-for-end it to extend its life.  So,
>> next time no splice, I will simply tie it.  thanks for the suggestion josh.
>> It’s worn enough that next time is now...
>>
>> The halyard is specified as wire/rope, 94’ total, and the rope diameter
>> is 7/16”.   I had switched to rope previously, some kind of mid priced low
>> stretch Dacron double braid.
>>
>> Other than comfort - is there any reason I must use 7/16, or could I
>> reduce to 3/8”?  It’s a pile of line to stow when the main is set.
>> Any line recommended for ease of coiling  and handling? (Would be a
>> nuisance to have to wrassle with it...)
>>
>> Thanks all.   Dave
>>
>>
>> 33-2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 28, 2021, at 12:59 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Yes Ron, double braid is really the only best option.  It appears that
>> you have interpreted the graph in the same manner as I.  There are a few
>> other factors that are going to impact your choice.
>>
>> I got the Samson XLS dirt cheap for my check stays.  I chose it for its
>> cost first, color second, and ability to splice core to core third.  It has
>> performed fine in this application.  My only complaint is that it doesn't
>> flake neatly and I'm regularly fighting with hockles.  Sta-set has never
>> given me the problems that XLS does.  If you can find the novabraid in a
>> desirable color I might suggest pursuing that option.
>>
>> There is a color scheme that I found online which you may want to
>> consider.  Green for mainsail, blue for headsail, red for spinnaker.
>> Solids for halyards.  Various fleck colors and patterns for the sheets and
>> control lines.  In this manner you and anyone else can quickly identify any
>> line associated with the mainsail because of its "green" scheme.
>>
>> And since you are talking about a halyard, a lot of people like to make a
>> core to core eye splice for attaching to the headboard shackle.  Consider
>> that the spice will stiffen and thicken line for 1 to 2 feet.  This is the
>> exact area where the line will pass through the masthead sheave.  It is
>> also the place where added resistance when hoisting the main is least
>> desired.  Instead you might try a double over hand on itself.  Read more
>> here:
>> http://www.caves.org/section/vertical/nh/46/doitie.html
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021, 21:40 Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks folks for all the responses.  I know a lot more than before,
>>> although still sadly lacking.  Thanks for the PS article which helped some
>>> as well.
>>> If I've understood correctly, the general consensus seems to be a double
>>> braid is the way to go for a guy just cruising around.
>>> I did remember one response that mentioned that Sta-set might be more
>>> expensive than needed.  What would be cheaper versions of a double braid.
>>> Would Novabraid and Samson XLS be examples?  I do recall the Samson name
>>> from decades ago.  Was there a double braid from Samson cheaper than XLS
>>> that's still around?
>>> Ron
>>> Wild Cheri
>>> C&C 30-1
>>> STL
>>>
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>>
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>
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