At one time we use to set the triangle and run the boats around the
triangle, then windward leeward (beat, reach, reach, beat, downwind).
That course always seemed better for different generation boats since it
involved all points of sail.
Now if the organizer sets a W/L course the lightweight A-sym boats sail
a course close to triangle reach course, the med displ symmetric spin
boats sail a broader reach downwind and the heavier symmetric spin (like
my 35 mk2) sail close to down wind. Can never figure out who is ahead
until we cross the finish line.
Don Kern
/Fireball/, C&C35 Mk2
Bristol, RI
On 9/10/2021 12:54 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote:
The problem is with the handicap numbers. A triangle course has only
33% beat, if equilateral. The more you spread out the offset mark,
the less percentage the beat; the more you pull it in, the higher
percentage beat.
For PHRF to work, I believe they recommend at least a 40% beat.
Preferred is a 50% beat like a windward/leeward or a triangle with an
extra beat.
On a dead downwind course one should sail their best angle for the
wind speed, not go dead downwind. That's true even for the white sail
fleet. There was a great article decades ago about the pole adjusted
forward to improve the broad reach for white sailed boats. But with my
filing system, I'll never be able to produce it if asked.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30-1
STL
On Friday, September 10, 2021, 11:31:22 AM CDT, Della Barba, Joe via
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
This is an ongoing issue with racing, everything is W/L dinghy racing
no matter if your boat is 10 feet long or 110 feet long. Back in the
day when men were men and sheep were scared we used government marks
and you got what you got, reaches, beats, runs, whatever.
When I used to RC C&C races I decided dead downwind on a hot day was
misery for the white sail fleet, so the spinnaker boats went on a W/L
course and the non-spin fleet used the same windward mark but had an
offset somewhere, say beam reach to the offset and then broad reach to
finish. Less tactics but less heatstroke too!
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the
costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to
send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the
costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to
send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu