At one time we use to set the triangle and run the boats around the triangle, then windward leeward (beat, reach, reach, beat, downwind).  That course always seemed better for different generation boats since it involved all points of sail. Now if the organizer sets a W/L course the lightweight A-sym boats sail a course close to triangle reach course, the med displ symmetric spin boats sail a broader reach downwind and the heavier symmetric spin (like my 35 mk2) sail close to down wind.  Can never figure out who is ahead until we cross the finish line.

Don Kern
/Fireball/, C&C35 Mk2
Bristol, RI


On 9/10/2021 12:54 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List wrote:
The problem is with the handicap numbers.  A triangle course has only  33% beat, if equilateral.  The more you spread out the offset mark, the less percentage the beat; the more you pull it in, the higher percentage beat. For PHRF to work, I believe they recommend at least a 40% beat.  Preferred is a 50% beat like a windward/leeward or a triangle with an extra beat. On a dead downwind course one should sail their best angle for the wind speed, not go dead downwind.  That's true even for the white sail fleet.  There was a great article decades ago about the pole adjusted forward to improve the broad reach for white sailed boats. But with my filing system, I'll never be able to produce it if asked.
Ron
Wild Cheri
C&C 30-1
STL


On Friday, September 10, 2021, 11:31:22 AM CDT, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


This is an ongoing issue with racing, everything is W/L dinghy racing no matter if your boat is 10 feet long or 110 feet long. Back in the day when men were men and sheep were scared we used government marks and you got what you got, reaches, beats, runs, whatever.

When I used to RC C&C races I decided dead downwind on a hot day was misery for the white sail fleet, so the spinnaker boats went on a W/L course and the non-spin fleet used the same windward mark but had an offset somewhere, say beam reach to the offset and then broad reach to finish. Less tactics but less heatstroke too!



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