On the recent race where our two boats inched along until time ran out, it was 
BECAUSE the RC ran a W/L course (again) that we sailed until dark.  A 
once-around triangle would have allowed us to finish.

 

From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
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I agree, and I feel your pain.

A 5 leg triangle/W/L does level the playing field somewhat between a mix of 
older and newer boats.

 

Altho, in fairness to our race committee, sometimes when the wind it too light 
all you can get in are two legs, or you are sitting out there in the dark.

 

Bill Coleman

Entrada, Erie, PA

 

 

 

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Ron:

 

                With all due respect, my boat’s PHRF rating was established in 
a mix of conditions, including triangle course racing and long distance racing, 
both of which typically involve some reaching.  As such, fairness requires 
racing in a mix of conditions.  Running only W/L courses in round-the-buoy 
races works to my disadvantage in several material respects: 1) it adds 
unaccounted-for mileage, which benefits lower rated boats (all the boats I race 
against); 2) newer, lighter, post-IOR boats are significantly faster upwind 
(and can point higher); 3) these boats, most of which are main driven, tack a 
lot more efficiently; and 4) my boat tends to hold its own on reaches, which 
are eliminated.  These disadvantages are exacerbated in “white sailed” racing.  
In short, W/L racing reveals how out-designed my boat really is.

 

PHRF was created so people like me could keep our boats and have some fun 
racing.  W/L courses undermine this concept.

 

                Matt

                C&C 42 Custom  

 

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