Don't kid yourself-even with the longer rudder they are still amazing
broachers! We've had several, including one spectacular one+

Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie PA

On Sun, Dec 12, 2021, 1:19 AM Martin DeYoung via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> More often than not both bloopers and staysails seemed to add a quarter
> knot going up and a quarter knot coming down.
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> One of the best uses of a blooper I experienced early on was during the
> windy 1977 Transpac. The C&C 39 I was on still had the original short, low
> aspect ratio rudder and small diameter steering wheel.
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> In typical trade wind conditions, sailing as close to DDW as possible, the
> blooper helped balance the sail plan pulling the bow back down when the
> boat was thinking of taking a hard swing to weather.
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> Those short C&C 39 rudders embarrassed more that a few helmsmen.  Here in
> the PNW, back in the late 70’s there was  4 or 5 C&C 39’s actively racing
> and competitive.  A local sailmaker and rockstar helmsman named Scott
> Rohrer (an acquaintance of mine still) was at the helm of a 39 a few boat
> lengths behind us. We all had spinnakers up but the conditions were
> deteriorating. As the 39 Scott was driving began performing the death roll,
> we could hear Scott yelling “I got it, I got it..” just before his boat
> spun hard to weather in a full broach.
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> For a long time we called Scott “Rodeo Rohrer” as in “going to the rodeo
> for a roundup”.  PNW C&C 39s with the short rudder got a reputation as
> “broach coaches” until they received the rudder upgrade.
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> Martin DeYoung
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> Calypso
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> 1971 C&C 43
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> Port Ludlow/Seattle
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> *From: *Fred Hazzard via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent: *Saturday, December 11, 2021 4:52 PM
> *To: *Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Cc: *Fred Hazzard <fshazz...@gmail.com>
> *Subject: *Stus-List Re: C&C to race - cold weather discussion topic
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> That all sounds good except the blooper.
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> My recollection of using the blooper on my one tonner  was, we went a
> quarter knot faster when we put it up and quarter knot faster when we took
> it down. The best thing about it was that it kept the crew ingaged trying
> to keep it full and out of the water.
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> 😁
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> Fred Hazzard
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> S/V Fury
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> C&C 44
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> Portland Or
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 11, 2021, at 3:43 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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> Martin, do I remember correctly; wasn't your boat originally Esta Es from
> Lake Michigan?
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> Ron
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> Wild Cheri
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> C&C 30-1
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> STL
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> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 01:51:01 AM CST, Martin DeYoung via
> CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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> I would go back to a C&C 39, tall rig, deep rudder and the light weight
> Atomic 4 aux engine. Prep it to be fully optimized for its PNW PHRF rating
> but include a “penalty pole” and blooper for those long DDW legs. I would
> also want the upgraded winch package that included the Barient titanium
> drum 3 speed primary winches.
>
> Back in the late 70’s the 39s did well in the typical light air races that
> were long enough to experience several changes of current that could keep a
> crew of 6 out for 24 to 36 hours in relative comfort. If the wind came up
> it could still go upwind without the whole neighborhood camped out on the
> rail.
>
> Martin DeYoung
> Calypso
> 1971 C&C 43
> Port Ludlow/Seattle
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