Yes, and I think this was probably the big advantage that the old Defender
had over West Marine. With the exception of some of the main yachting
centers, if you would go into any West Marine store, which for me would be
either Cleveland or Buffalo, You could spray a paintball machine gun around
the store and not hit a soul. It's always nice to be able to go through
these stores and browse, but I'm sure that West Marine lost a shitload of
money on them. Probably still is. Sad to say, that online is probably the
only viable approach anymore. I think another problem with the marine
industry is the layers of distribution that add percentages on percentages
to the cost. Some of these layers have been removed in the last 40 years,
but it is still a burden.

Bill Coleman
Entrada Erie PA

On Sat, Mar 11, 2023, 15:19 John Read via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> I seem to recall Jamestown closed their store and are now 100% on line
> only??? If so not sure impact on service,  price etc.
> John Read
> Legacy III
> Noank CT
> 1982 C&C 34
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023, 11:34 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Jamestown Distributors has always given me great service. I haven't
>> compared their prices for a while but they were in line with other places
>> or lower. They have their own brand called Total Boat, which is very good,
>> unlike most West Marine brands.
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> Andrew Burton
>> 26 Beacon Hill
>> Newport, RI
>> USA 02840
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>>
>> phone  +401 965 5260
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:27 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Most people I talk to are disappointed at the direction Defender has
>>> been going after being purchased by a Hedge Fund, or whomever, and West has
>>> been pretty pricey since Randy Repass left years ago, and now that doesn't
>>> look too good -
>>>
>>> <<That same day, S&P downgraded
>>> <https://disclosure.spglobal.com/ratings/en/regulatory/article/-/view/type/HTML/id/2954392>
>>> Rising Tide Holdings to SD, which means selective default. “We view the
>>> transaction as tantamount to a default because creditors will receive less
>>> value than originally promised, and we view the exchange as distressed,”
>>> S&P wrote.>>
>>>
>>> I guess Rising Tides, dba West Marine, is ebbing.
>>>
>>> Does anyone  have any favorites for Parts, like BOE Marine, Go2Marine,
>>> etc?  I can't find my bottom paint for less than $395 A Gallon. Even
>>> Fishermen's supply is not that great anymore.
>>>
>>> Bill Coleman
>>> Entrada Erie, PA
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