Let's just be thankful we're not flying airplanes!

Bill Coleman

On Sun, Jun 11, 2023, 09:42 Korbey Hunt via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> I have a 1980 34 C&C located in Ketchikan, AK.  I only use it in the
> summer.  It has a new Yanmar 30 hp engine with 300 hrs.  Last year when
> returning from a long cruise at good speed and running well for many hours
> the engine suddenly slowed and died.  We were in a channel and began
> drifting towards the beach.  After a few minutes I restarted the motor and
> it ran fine.  I suspect a fuel problem but never found the cause.  I
> changed the engine filter but it did not look dirty.
>
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> *From:* Martin DeYoung via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 10, 2023 10:24:48 PM
> *To:* Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Cc:* Martin DeYoung <martin.deyo...@outlook.com>
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Engine strangeness
>
> Transitory engine issues can create drama quickly.  Back in 1992 we had
> just taken possession of a 1981 C&C 36 and departed Seattle's Lake Union
> heading out to our saltwater moorage at Shilshole Bay Marina. This trip
> takes us west through the Lake Washington Ship Canal, under the Fremont and
> Ballard Bridges (needed to open them), and through the Ballard locks. The
> Ship Canal is narrow enough that it is rare to sail through it. It was also
> calm that day.  The engine ran just fine through the transit to and into
> the locks (approx. first hour of ownership). It is common to shut down the
> engine while locking through as it can take enough time to expose a few
> people to the exhaust fumes.
>
> So, the lock gates open, the C&C 36's Yanmar 3-cylinder diesel fires up
> and *aided *by the outgoing current we departed the lock. Now it worth
> noting there is an opening single leafed Bascule train bridge with a
> clearance of +-48' at that moment's tide height a short distance west of
> the lock. Our 36's air draft was a little over 50'.
> Given how the gods watching over errant sailors enjoy a good laugh from
> time to time the engine chooses that moment to shut down. It shut down in
> that way that indicates a restart is unlikely. The train bridge is also
> down. The current coming out of the locks is relentlessly pushing us
> towards the closed bridge. I am suddenly very concerned for the top few
> feet of the mast.
>
> I immediately sounded the signal asking for an opening. I asked the boat's
> new co-owner to make ready to anchor.  I hit the starter to see if the
> engine would restart. It sputtered and died again.  I sounded for an
> opening again. Nothing promising was happening up on the bow in way of an
> anchor being deployed. I attempted another restart this time with the
> reduction gear in reverse to make use of any rotation of the prop.  I get
> maybe 15 to 20 seconds of run time which slowed our progress slightly. The
> bridge operator made the horn signal indicating he was able to open the
> bridge, no trains were in route.  I headed for the side of the bridge that
> opens first and hit the starter again hoping for another few seconds of
> reverse.
>
> Fortunately, the bridge opened just enough and our path close to the
> opening end of the bridge equaled just enough clearance the mast remained
> intact, and we avoided an embarrassing episode where we would have needed
> to "strike the burgee", obscure the boat's name, and wear bags over our
> heads to avoid being identified.
>
> The cause of all this entertainment was debris in the fuel tank blocking
> the fuel pick-up.  We hired a fuel tank cleaner/polisher who cut a
> inspection port removed the debris, cleaned the tank, polished the fuel and
> voila, no more fuel pick up issues.
>
> Fast forward to 1999 and I am motoring our recently acquired C&C 43 along
> the same route.  When the truck from Chicago arrived, we had her unloaded
> at a Lake Union boat yard.  After 3 months of repair and upgrade work the
> boat was ready to leave but the mast was still in the paint shed so we
> motored off without a mast.  Didn't need to open any bridges and was
> relaxed about restarting in the locks and heading west. (The anchoring gear
> was ready to go this time.)  When we got to our Shilshole Bay Marina slip I
> contacted the fuel cleaning guy and had the tank thoroughly cleaned and the
> fuel polished to be ready for my next trip with the mast up and its 70' air
> draft.
>
> Martin DeYoung
> Calypso
> 1971 C&C 43
> Port Ludlow/Seattle
>
> Greta
> 1956 Matthews 42
> Port Ludlow
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> *From:* David Knecht via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 10, 2023 12:47 PM
> *To:* Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Cc:* davidakne...@gmail.com <davidakne...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Engine strangeness
>
> So the problem has not recurred in several hours of motoring over a few
> days so i am going to write it off as launch day blues. No water in
> separator. Fuel pressure gauge normal.  I cant see that i can do anything
> about it unless it keeps happening. Thanks for the ideas. Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 9, 2023, at 11:41 AM, Dreuge via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> I once had a similar engine issue.  It would run fine one day (or half)
> and constant stall upon or shortly after restarts.  It turned out that my
> Racor was not full tightened.  Easy fix once found.
>
> -
> Paul E.
> 1981 C&C Landfall 38
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Fort Walton Beach, FL
>
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/
>
> On Jun 9, 2023, at 11:27 AM, ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 7:22 AM David Knecht via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I am out for the first time this season. Engine started right up. Motored
> out of harbor for two hours. Turned engine off for a while waiting for
> wind. Started back up. Ran for 15-30 sec and died. Started up and ran for a
> bit longer then died. Pulled bed to get access and fuel pressure and level
> in racor look fine. Started up and ran fine for 40 min. WTF?  Dave
>
>
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