On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 14:49, Michael DeHaan <[email protected]> wrote: > Robert Lazzurs wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 16:40, Rainer Duffner <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Michael DeHaan schrieb: >>> >>>> We don't really have a vested interest in making Windows physical >>>> deployments easy to deploy. >>>> >>>> >> >> Hello, >> >> So just to add my 2c in... >> >> This statement worries me, I would suggest while we as a community >> should encourage the use of FOSS operating systems do we really want >> to take an RMS style view on this? Â Cobbler from my POV should be a >> generic systems management and will work best if it can document and >> deploy your whole infrastructure, re my earlier comments about >> upgrading iLO cards and network devices from Cobbler. >> >> Windows is not going to be going away from the data centre any time >> soon and while I believe everything should be virtual unless there is >> a good reason not to be not everyone has that view. >> > > Ok, I'll explain this further. > > Cobbler is growing rather fast... VERY fast, and as it grows, I want to > make sure the quality of the application everywhere is the best it can be. > > There are a lot of things left undone, and various rough corners that > still need to be polished. SUSE, Network Config, and Debian/Ubuntu support > are all very recent and in varying degrees of being finished. We're not > even packaged for all of them. There are still things that can't be done > in the web application, etc. > Lots of expansion, but we can do more to refine those things. (Does koan > work on all of these platforms yet for virt AND replacement? Etc). > If we expand too fast, we forget to go back and fill in that detail. > > I seem to encounter a lot of users that /do/ clone physical windows > systems, so I am not sure doing scripted installs is the answer. > Further, the RIS stuff > does not seem to be consistent across all OSes . An approach based on > cloning those systems may be better in the end because that also allows > working systems to be deployed .. not just empty shells that just have > the Base OS on them. > > I think we need to take a step back for a bit and focus on the core of > Cobbler, close out lots of bugs and RFEs, ensure our new distribution > support > is first-class on the level with our others, and make sure the web > application has parity with the command line. > > Yes, all of these things /can/ be done in parallel, but as we add new > arms to our octopus, we must make sure we go back and add the proverbial > suckers > to those arms.
Hello, Agreed this is happening and does need to slow down a bit. Some crazy release manager around here keeps deciding we need to get those new features out yesterday ;) I will do what I can to close more bugs and testing, however I have noticed that people are not closing bugs as they solve them. Please have a look over the bugs everyone, I am sure not every bug there should be assigned to mdehaan ;) Now as for the platform testing, I have added a structure for the wiki for this, what do people think? Is this a worthwhile thing doing? https://fedorahosted.org/cobbler/wiki/PlatformTesting So finally, once we have more of the "suckers on the arms" as you put it I presume as long as it does not become a support burden you have no objection to Cobbler being able to install Windows on bare tin...as long as the deployment method makes sense? Take care. _______________________________________________ cobbler mailing list [email protected] https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
