> Le 27 juin 2017 à 04:25, Sandor Szatmari <admin.szatmari....@gmail.com> a 
> écrit :
> 
> This is an interesting thread.  The OP's original question made me think of 
> the functionality Apple recently (how recently I'm not sure) added to the iOS 
> Notes app.  It allows you to selectively 'encrypt' (password protect) a note. 
>  This functionality allows you to pass your phone to someone to let them read 
> a note and not worry about them skipping to your note with all your 'secret 
> info'.  Also, if someone got your phone in an unlocked state, (it could 
> happen I guess) they couldn't trust a Mac and browse to plain text files.  

Notes are sync with iCloud and can be read on a Mac where this is far more 
common to share a session.

> I must say at this point I whole heartedly agree with all the warnings for 
> implementing encryption schemes.  But is there not also a valid use case 
> here?  Unless I'm misunderstanding things, Apple seemed to think so.
> 
> Sandor
> 
>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 13:59, Jens Alfke <j...@mooseyard.com 
>> <mailto:j...@mooseyard.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 26, 2017, at 9:50 AM, Alex Zavatone <z...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You can use the iExplore app to look in the Documents folder of any device 
>>> you attach to your Mac. 
>> 
>> But you can only attach a device to your Mac if the device is unlocked, 
>> since you have to OK the “Do you trust this computer?” alert.
>> As recent court cases have shown, unlocking an iOS device against the 
>> owner’s will is nearly impossible.
>> 
>>> Also, data protection SUCKS because it locks the files if the app goes in 
>>> to the background, basically suspending any file based background 
>>> operations like sql db updates. 
>> 
>> It does this by default, but you can alter those settings if you need 
>> background access to certain files, basically trading some security for 
>> greater access.
>> 
>>> Thanks to the help of Chris Thorman, I was able to update an AES256 hmac 
>>> method to work with UTF-8 char sets.  We use this for data security over 
>>> http.
>> 
>> It’s much easier to just enable SSL/TLS on the HTTP server. (Though I 
>> realize there are cases where you don’t have control over the server, or 
>> circumstances prevent deploying HTTPS.)
>> 
>>> Now, it might be overkill or just bad design, but we use a CoreData db with 
>>> transformable property and encrypt the data stored. 
>> 
>> How do you store the encryption key? That’s often the downfall; even if you 
>> put it in the Keychain, it can be accessed by an attacker if your app’s 
>> files are accessible (unless you add TouchID authentication to it.)
>> 
>> (Also, I hope you’re using a different IV for each record you encrypt. Sorry 
>> to be a broken record about this, but it’s important.)
>> 
>> —Jens
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