ANY discussion of pre release software he is off-topic and grounds for
moderation. and breaking of the nda is liable to legal action.
there are no frivolous bug reports
On 2009-07-04, at 1:15 PM, WT wrote:
On Jul 4, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Fritz Anderson wrote:
On 4 Jul 2009, at 8:27 AM, WT wrote:
And, yes, I realize that discussing beta releases is a no-no. I'm
not asking for a discussion; I'm merely asking for a "I'm having
that problem too and I've already filed a radar" or "Yes, this
looks like a bug and you should report it" or a "No, it must be
something in your code" kind of response.
Soliciting publicity for the behavior of pre-release software is a
violation of Apple's NDA, no matter how you parse "discussing."
I am not "soliciting publicity."
Suppose someone sent a message to the list saying "AppleOS 17.3 beta
SDK is available for download" (assuming such a thing existed). Does
that qualify as "soliciting publicity"? As a violation of Apple's
NDA? Both? Neither? There is a line, but where is it drawn? My point
is that there is a certain latitude in how the word "discussing" can
be parsed.
The part of my message that you quoted represents an acknowledgement
on my part that I am in that grey area surrounding the line where
it's not clear whether or not what I'm doing is a violation of
Apple's NDA.
I may have made a mistake in sending my original message to cocoa-
dev but, if so, it was an honest mistake based on the intention of
minimizing the filing of frivolous bug reports. Pardon me for
thinking too much.
you could get an answer at devforums.apple.com.
A constructive suggestion. Thank you.
Also, if you're seeing changes in the behavior of an API -- and is
that surprising in beta software -- it's no disgrace to file a bug
report, no matter whether you think others have seen the bug.
Whether or not others have seen this behavior is not my motivation.
I'm simply trying to ascertain if I'm missing something, in order to
avoid filing a bug report for something that might be a mistake or
misunderstanding on my part. What would happen if people were to
file bugs for every misunderstanding they have?
Moreover, considering that I'm still building and running under 3.0
(a fact you seem to have missed), this is not a change in behavior
of an API, unless you consider Leaks to be part of the API. I
obviously didn't consider it to be, and that might have been another
mistake.
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