> so in the NSScroler docs there is no way to set the min, max, and value -- 
> that is the problem

http://developer.apple.com/Mac/library/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/ApplicationKit/Classes/NSScroller_Class/DeprecationAppendix/AppendixADeprecatedAPI.html#//apple_ref/occ/instm/NSScroller/setFloatValue:knobProportion:

If you want to support Tiger, you will have to use the deprecated method.  If 
not, don't.

Note that to learn all about class X, you may need to read up on its 
superclass(es).  In this particular instance, NSScroller is a subclass of 
NSControl and many of the things it can do are defined there.

Paul Sanders.
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