Le 26 mai 2010 à 14:53, Graham Cox a écrit :

> 
> On 26/05/2010, at 10:41 PM, vincent habchi wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm... Let's say you have a class A with a private variable "priv" and b a 
>> pointer to a subclass of A. Is:
>> 
>> [(A *)b priv]
>> 
>> legal?
> 
> 
> No. It's not legal syntax for accessing an ivar in any case - square brackets 
> invoke a method:- [instance method]. 

Granted. I assumed there was a getter defined. That's because, AFAIC, I almost 
always synthesize ivars, so they become regular attributes.

> Perhaps you could ask is:
> 
> (A*)b->priv legal?

Yes. Indeed.

> Depends. If priv is @private it is invisible to code other than within the 
> methods of class A itself, so if this code lived inside such a method it 
> would work, otherwise it would not. I don't think the cast makes any 
> difference.

So, tell me if I'm wrong, but I infer from your answer that whatever I can do, 
there is no means for a subclass A' to access any private variable of its 
ancestor.

> But this is not getting to the problem that the OP is having, which AFAICS is 
> unrelated to @private. @private is a Good Thing™ - often worth using.

Well, as a regular Python code writer, I've never missed @private (or even 
@protected) declarations. I fail anyhow to grasp the relevancy of @private 
vis-à-vis @protected: It seems logical to me that subclasses be granted access 
to all ancestor attributes.

Vincent_______________________________________________

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