Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote, On 13/03/2003 12.20:
> ...
> > I guess this comes down to the question of "what is the cocoon core?".
>
> AAARGGG, is this version two of the module-blocks naming discussion?
> ;-)))))
Yupp, it is :)
>
> Ok, I'm not necessarily agaisnt it, I'm trying to see the bigger
> picture, ie where it leads us to.
>
Ok.
> What is Cocoon... let's put it this way: what is the smallest unit of a
> working Cocoon? What should it do? Please bear me in this crazy RT, I
> think it's not so far fetched.
>
>
> Imagine that we have brought Cocoon componentization to the extreme.
> We could have these layers:
>
> Flow framework| implementation
> |----------------------------|-----------------|
> Sitemap framework| implementation
> |---------------------------|----------------|
> SAX pipeline framework| implementation
> |--------------------------|---------------|
> SAX components framework|implementation
> |----------------------------------------|
>
> The minimal Cocoon "thing" would be an Avalon Component called Block
> that can be reused as-is. For example, we could simply do in any part of
> a Java class:
>
> CocoonComponentManager.get("fop");
>
> And we could use that Component as a normal Java component.
>
> Then we could need to make a pipeline, and have the pipeline API, and
> implementation that can use the blocks.
>
> Then a sitemap, that aggregates these pipelines as we all know.
>
> Finally the flow, that does the workflow between requests.
>
>
> Where does this come from?
> Simply, I'm getting fed up with rewriting code always just to manage
> components in my projects, or hand-code pipelines ala JAXP. I'd like to
> use these patrts indipendently, but Cocoon is not made with this in
> mind, it even still does not have a simple way of programmatically
> setting up a simple SAX pipeline with inputstream->outputstream.
>
Yes, you're rt is not so far away; I guess, with the "real" blocks
we are very close to it. So we should keep this in mind when it comes
to the blocks implementation after 2.1
Carsten
