On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, J.D. Daniels wrote: > > > > So I whould like a solution there we offer a source distribution, and > > > binary distribution with a war, which includes all samples, and one > clean > > > war. So the user can first download the bin-dist, test all samples, > > > and experimentalize with the clean webapp. And then he is glad and want > > > more, he can download the source-dist. > > > > I'm still strongly in favor of a single distribution with a very simple, > > short yet very well documented INSTALL.txt file. > > > > Stefano. > > > > I definately agree with Stefano here. Here is an example of usage: > > My background is PHP. Been writing php applications for quite awhile. Takes > me maybe 15 minutes to hack a personalized form for client's feedback. Now I > want to update this client's info to an xml application so I can do some > advanced stuff with his data. (Say a real estate agent wants to go through > all of his Market evaulations he gets from his website) > > So I need cocoon.. It is the perfect framework. > > I download a binary.... do the samples war thing.. COOL look at this xml > form thingy.. way better functionality than i get with php. > ok... install the clean war... > hmmm... look at this empty sitemap (Which as a newbie, I am struggling with > as it is) > ok back to the samples..... ah xml form howto -- Perfect!! > oh. > HowToAction.java .. hmmmm ok > now i need to compile it with my form handler... > now I am using the source. > > We end up here anyway.. lets skip all that crap... > > See where I am going here? This is what (IMHO) most of new cocoon users are > like. We are experienced developers..... but chances are we won't be java > aware.... so the idea of two extra binaries will, i think slow down the time > it takes to get productive. > > Sorry for yapping so much on the dev-list, but i think this is really > important :)
No no, it's very useful. Maybe I'm wrong :-/ I only want to prevent that users be scared by the installation, which takes sometimes a lot of time and knowledge. I'm, for example, very impatient, if some software takes too much time, or too many dependencies just for the first look, then I throw it away. Stephan.
