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-----Original Message-----
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of Kim,
Bohyun
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 12:09 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Post-election statement affirming diversity from
Code4Lib?
That’s great points, thanks for sharing. I totally agree with you and love your
last paragraph!
We need to make these statements as public and as wide spread as possible.
We need to stand up for our community values of inclusion, equity, and
diversity, and we need to be clear about the economic impact we, as a
community, have on the cities we visit each and every year.
Thanks,
Bohyun
On 11/15/16, 11:53 AM, "Code for Libraries on behalf of Tim McGeary"
<CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG on behalf of timmcge...@gmail.com> wrote:
I will add something to the question about the Teeth to the statement. One
way to do that is to also indicate that Cod4Lib will not accept any
proposals for hosting from states or municipalities that cannot support the
Code of Conduct policy.
As a real-world example, I co-chaired the hosting of Code4Lib in Raleigh in
2014. Based on that success, we submitted a very competitive bid to host
Open Repositories in 2017, which was awarded to Australia, since it has
been so long since it was outside of North America or Europe. But the
North Carolina Legislature rammed through HB2 right after our bid lost. Had
we won that bid, we likely would have had to give up hosting OR 2017.
I would love to host Code4Lib again or Open Repositories, but I cannot in
good conscience lead a proposal submission without the communities full
support, and given that HB2 still exists in North Carolina, I do not want
to ask either the Code4Lib or OR communities to compromise on the code of
conduct. More importantly, I've asked the OR Steering Committee to be VERY
PUBLIC with their statement. Code4Lib brings in $250,000 - $500,000 of
economic transactions, depending on the locality. Open Repositories is
$500,000 - $750,000. That is REAL money lost to a community and their
businesses. The City of Durham, while one of the most inclusive cities I
have ever lived in, loses out.
We need to make these statements as public and as wide spread as possible.
We need to stand up for our community values of inclusion, equity, and
diversity, and we need to be clear about the economic impact we, as a
community, have on the cities we visit each and every year.
Tim
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Kim, Bohyun <b...@hshsl.umaryland.edu>
wrote:
> Great, I will submit a pull request later today with a starting doc with
> some wording that we can collectively edit and develop with the reference
> to our CoC - definitely a good starting point!
>
> Thanks,
> Bohyun
>
>
>
> > On Nov 15, 2016, at 10:35 AM, Richmond,Ian <i...@drexel.edu> wrote:
> >
> > The Code of Conduct seems to have a lot of teeth expressly covers who
> can help and sanction, and includes many levels of escalation. Though
much
> of it is oriented to a conference setting, I think it would be a good base
> to reinforce. Maybe some words about it and a link to the policy?
> >
> > --Ian Richmond
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of
> Collier, Aaron
> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 7:34 PM
> > To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Post-election statement affirming diversity from
> Code4Lib?
> >
> > We do have a Code of Conduct: https://github.com/code4lib/
> antiharassment-policy/blob/master/code_of_conduct.md
> >
> >
> > So possibly something that reinforces that would be useful.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf Of
> Patrick Murray-John
> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 4:14 PM
> > To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Post-election statement affirming diversity from
> Code4Lib?
> >
> > I'm very much a reader/lurker on this list, so I don't know much about
> the bigger structures.
> >
> > I'm very much in favor of a statement along these lines.
> >
> > My question is about the teeth to it. When we look to who it will come
> from, do they have the ability to kick offenders off the list, or some
> other mechanism of response? Action seems to be needed now, and so in
> addition to a statement, I'd like to see behavior contrary to the
statement
> having visible consequences. I think that'd add significance to whatever
> statement appears.
> >
> > Patrick Murray-John
> >
> >> On 11/14/2016 06:00 PM, Tara Wood wrote:
> >> Absolutely!
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Salazar, Christina <
> >> christina.sala...@csuci.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>> So can we see the samples - LITA's and NMRT's? And I'm also wondering
> >>> who will be responsible for sending it out (i.e., who will it "come
> >>> from") - C4L's "organization" being such that it is.
> >>> Christina Salazar
> >>> Broome Library
> >>> CSU Channel Islands
> >>> (PS I live in California where our Senate President Pro Tem and
> >>> Assembly Speaker made a statement in regards to the US's current
> >>> political situation, and their statement kept me personally from
> >>> TOTALLY losing it. I believe a statement will make clear what
> >>> otherwise might be an unknown for
> >>> some.)
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG] On Behalf
> >>> Of Kim, Bohyun
> >>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 1:05 PM
> >>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG
> >>> Subject: [CODE4LIB] Post-election statement affirming diversity from
> >>> Code4Lib?
> >>>
> >>> Hi Code4Libbers,
> >>>
> >>> What do you think about issuing a post-election statement on
> >>> diversity basically affirming that we stand by it?
> >>>
> >>> If that _IS_ the majority opinion in Code4Lib which I am _POSITIVE_
> >>> that it is, then I want to hear it and I think others may well!
> >>>
> >>> I just drafted one for LITA (to be out tomorrow hopefully). So I have
> >>> some wordings that I can offer as a starting point.
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Bohyun
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
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