Umm... if the clients dont see the user parting/joining the channel, how 
exactly are the on-join spammers going to send them a message.. on join?

GK

On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Radium wrote:

> Hello,
>      I had an idea that would help channel operators fight spamming
> on their channels.   I suggest the addition of a new command CYCLE
> that would be available to channel operators only (I know that the 
> functionnality is "somehow" already included in most scripts.. however
> it would be much more efficient at the server level).
> 
> A channel operator that would issue the "/quote CYCLE #channel"
> command would be propagated to all servers and each server would
> issue a PART, JOIN, and MODE +o command  on the server-client
> protocol only.   Basically, for the servers, the user never left the 
> channel (thus does not lose the @).   The client-server protocol would
> not change and for the users on the channel, it would look like a real
> PART, JOIN, MODE +o sequence.
> 
> Why?  we save some bandwidth on the server-server protocol: no need
> to send the PART, JOIN, and MODEs..  and we save as well some
> work-load for X, cuz when a user cycle a channel it is normally followed
> by an op request to the channel bot or X.
> We will eliminate the need for special bots that have been set-up to join-part
> channels to find spammers.   Actually, it's for the last reason that I 
> beleive it would be a good addition to ircu.   I was thinking of adding a
> new bot for that purpose on #quebec, but with this feature, the existing
> bot can do the job without any loss of performance.
> 
> Radium
> 

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