Henri Yandell wrote:

Okay, so you just mean no gump for sandbox [deletes long rant about
importance of nightly builds]. Summary of it is, that I think gump and the
apache repository need to be hooked together so each project is updating
the SNAPSHOT whenever it changes.


Nick's probably going to insert something to the effect that Gump isn't a nightly build publishing system, its a continuous integration testing system. ;-)


The dealio with publishing nightly snapshots was to hopefully get them into somewhere like

/www/cvs.apache.org/builds/java-repository

the reasoning is that www/www.apache.org is reserved for official releases while cvs.apache.org is reserved for nightly builds, stuff that really goes out to the world for external projects to build off of actually goes into ibiblio in the end, all nightlies stay at Apache. [Mark repeats himself yet again...crickets, silence...sigh]

Last Lang SNAPSHOT was the end of January.

+1 to kill gump builds for sandbox projects. In fact, +1 to kill it for
all unreleased projects [sorry dIon/Phil/Mark].


More motivation to get that Math release out sooner ;-)


Hen

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Nick Chalko wrote:


As long as project don't decide to use gump anyways and cheat relying on
a version sandbox projects jar checked into CVS then I think this is a
reasonable thing.
Stephen Colebourne wrote:


This is a proposal to begin to end the abuse of the sandbox. (The sandbox
was intended as a temporary 'play area' for new ideas, not a long term
project home)

Gump is the key mechanism used in apache to ensure that everything keeps
building. By removing the sandbox projects, we should encourage other
projects not to depend on the sandbox unless they are willing to help push
the project to a release.

Normally decisions such as this have been left to each project, but IMHO its
time for commons-dev to take control. Any views? Do we vote or just do it?

Stephen



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