Hoi.
Blocking because people do not agree with you is very much antagonising.
The intention is that Commons serves other projects so why is someone
blocked when they make sure people take notice of what is happening at
Commons?
I fins it is rather offensive all these !@#$%%. It gives the impression
that there is no conversation possible and that it has degenerated into a
power play.
Thanks,
Gerard
On 20 June 2014 23:23, Daniel Schwen <[email protected]> wrote:
> If by "antagonizing" you mean abide by the law and by "serve" you mean
> act on wishful thinking then... sure.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Yann Forget <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 2014-06-21 2:27 GMT+05:30 Daniel Schwen <[email protected]>:
> >> I don't see notices sent to users on commons to vote on he.wp user
> >> topic bans or policies. So, really, classifying this as a war
> >> misrepresents the unilateral nature of the he.wp uprising against URAA
> >> compliance.
> >
> > Commons is here to serve Wikipedia projects, not to antagonize them,
> > like it is the case.
> > I think users of the Hebrew Wikipedia has the right to know and to say
> > what they think about what affects them.
> >
> > Yann
> >
> >> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Yann Forget <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> Suite of the drama.
> >>>
> >>> A request for a topic ban against LGA, who made these deletion
> >>> requests, was started by Hanay, a user from the Hebrew Wikipedia.
> >>>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/User_problems#User:LGA
> >>>
> >>> Now she is blocked for one week for "canvassing", because she informed
> >>> the Hebrew Wikipedia of the request.
> >>>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Blocks_and_protections#Block_of_Hanay_for_cross-wiki_canvassing
> >>>
> >>> This affair is going to degenerate in a full war between Commons and
> >>> some Wikipedias, if a solution is not found.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Yann
> >>>
> >>> 2014-06-17 5:05 GMT+05:30 Yann Forget <[email protected]>:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Some Commons contributors like to ask impossible requirements, and
> >>>> threaten to delete files if these are not met. We have now a case of
> >>>> famous pictures from the government of Israel and Israel Defense
> >>>> Forces.
> >>>>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Matanya#Files_and_pages_that_were_deleted_by_User:Fastily_that_I_am_aware_of_them
> >>>>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Beba_Idelson_Ada_Maimon1952.jpg
> >>>>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Abba_Hushi_1956.jpg
> >>>>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Aharon_Meskin_-_Ben_Gurion_-_Israel_Prize1960.jpg
> >>>>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Avraham_Shlonsky_1952.jpg
> >>>>
> >>>> These are famous and valuable pictures, including two featured
> >>>> pictures on the Hebrew Wikipedia. These files have already been
> >>>> deleted and restored 3 times. When the URAA issue was not convincing
> >>>> enough, a new reson for deletion was advanced: that publication
> >>>> details were not given. Anyone with 2 bits of common sense can
> >>>> understand that these famous pictures were published soon after they
> >>>> were taken. There is no reasonable doubt about that. In addition,
> >>>> publication is not a requirement for being in the public domain in
> >>>> Israel.
> >>>>
> >>>> After I restored these images, I was threatem by LGA, who is a
> >>>> delete-only account:
> >>>>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/User_problems#User:Yann
> >>>> There, more contributors argue on this issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> By asking absurb requirements about publication details, these
> >>>> contributors threaten the project as a whole. If insisting, it will
> >>>> lead people to upload pictures like these locally instead of Commons.
> >>>> Then the idea of a central repository for all Wikimedia projects is
> >>>> gone.
> >>>>
> >>>> Instead of looking for a reason to destroy these files, they should
> >>>> try to find a reason to keep them.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Yann
> >>>
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